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Nintendogamer on 29 September 2009

this retarded thread needs to be locked, It's rather offensive.



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LordTheNightKnight on 29 September 2009

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PanderingToTheBase

See that page for what Nintendo is not going to do this gen. They can't have that market, when that kind of market is a dead end.



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mushroomboy5 on 29 September 2009

Sigh... if you ask me Sony and microsoft could probably do with more titles aimed at the socalled casual gamer just as badly as wii supposedly needs more hardcore titles...fps will only get you so far after all (as the evidence suggests)



Avinash_Tyagi on 29 September 2009

So far 360 only has one game pass the 10 million mark, PS3 has had none, Wii has four...the expanded market is a much better market to pursue, even Sony and MS realize this as they try and bring out the Wand and NATAL, even though both of those will likely be failures at reaching the expanded market due to the lack of relevant software.



 

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dharh on 29 September 2009

Core this and core that. Whatever. I just know my Wii is boring and my PS3 is not.



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ShadowSoldier on 29 September 2009
Onimusha12 said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Onimusha12 said:

Let’s face it, Sony and MS steam roll us with game after game for their consoles, show developer after developer willing to bend over backwards for them, show great things they plan to do for their new upcoming gaming peripherals. Meanwhile no one seriously gave wii motion controls a real effort… and Nintendo just plugs along…

Despite all their setbacks it’s clear that Microsoft and Sony are infinitely more adept at adapting to setbacks and re-training market focus to their favor. They’re making lemonade from lemons and damn tasty lemonade at that.

Basically everything that Wii gamers had claimed would happen for the Wii back in 2006/2007 has happened for the PS3. The Wii would eventually win over the core gamer, but it was the PS3 that is slowly doing so. The Wii has loads of quality games on the way, but it is only the PS3 that has delivered on delayed quality this generation.

While this generation is a lost cause for Nintendo in regards to core gaming, there is hope for the next gen, assuming Nintendo is smart enough to give the consumer what they want. We’ve already seen Nintendo dump massive amounts of revenue into new studios for developers and create a sub-company dedicated towards quality control. However…

From the outset, Nintendo faced many problems this generation:

-         Developers entered this generation not wanting to seriously support Nintendo.

-         Nintendo worked poorly with third party developers and failed to back third party titles.

-         Nintendo failed to diversify their image and product appeal, relying too heavily on casual gaming.

-         Nintendo did not cultivate the Wii to be a console geared towards selling a variety of software.

-         Nintendo was not prepared for the success of the Wii, lacked the infrastructure and second party studios to create a software snowball effect that is needed to get any console to become a viable software selling machine

In the end, its largely Nintendo’s inability to please third party developers and create a product that will sell their games. Nintendo can recover from this, but while gaining considerable ground this generation, they’ve lost their golden opportunity to take the market back, assuming that was even possible given their inbound handicap.

Nintendo needs to learn from Microsoft and Sony or they’ll end up losing the casual market to them too in due time. Nintendo needs to be willing to pay money out of their own pockets to get quality third party games put on their console.

While I’m sure some of you are just content with the way things are going for the Wii and DS, there are those of us who see that Nintendo can do more.

I 100% Agree. People say the core abandoned Nintendo? Not true especially during the Gamecube/N64 era it was the core gamer that kept them afloat. I find it ironic that it was Nintendo who invented the quality assurance seal during the NES days and today they have mostly shovelware doing exceptionally well on their system.


Except Shovelware sells terribly on the Wii

@ Soriku

You're right honestly, this is basially a day late and a dollar short summation.

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=18524&region=All

Deca Sports- 50 on metacritc

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7221&region=All

Carnival Games-56 on metacritc

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6091&region=All

Mario Party 8- 62 on metacritic

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24657&region=All

Wii Music- 63 on metacritc

Anything under 70= Shovelware 



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Dr.Grass on 29 September 2009

Jeez there's some super-emo posts on here.

I think Nintendo fans have a right to feel slightly disappointed, but some of these over the top HOW-COULD-YOU-NINTENDO posts are just rediculous.

They did say their not competing didn't they? They did say their not willing to lose money on a console didn't they? They did give us Mario,Link,Samus didn't they?

I CAN'T remember the last time I heard anyone say it, so here goes:
xxxxx****WELL DONE NINTENDO****xxxxxx



mai on 29 September 2009
ShadowSoldier said:

Anything under 70= Shovelware

Opinion of someone with considerable lack of own opinion, who heavily relying on other people opinions, is questionable.



Alterego-X on 29 September 2009
ShadowSoldier said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=18524&region=All

Deca Sports- 50 on metacritc

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7221&region=All

Carnival Games-56 on metacritc

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6091&region=All

Mario Party 8- 62 on metacritic

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24657&region=All

Wii Music- 63 on metacritc

Anything under 70= Shovelware 

Apparently, Kane & Lynch(67), Too Human(65), or Turok(69) are shovelware... 

 

OR... Shovelware actually means games from cheap developers, with zero efforts in the game's development.

 

 



gansito on 29 September 2009

Nintendo hasn't lost anything, they expanded their market and gained more sales in the process. They have released great 1st party games, the problem is the perception that most nintendo fans have, that they expect a nintendo console to have great third party games, which hasn't happened to nintendo since the SNES, and they always are so hopeful that things will change, and when they don't they complain. The reason to buy a wii is to play nintendo games, other than that the HD consoles is where gaming is at.