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^wow 2 stealth trolls in a row!   (well maybe just one... not sure if NKAJ was referring to 360 games coming soon that look better or games in general on both systems)



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nightsurge said:

^wow 2 stealth trolls in a row!   (well maybe just one... not sure if NKAJ was referring to 360 games coming soon that look better or games in general on both systems)


lol no i actually was reffering to rage and brink and crysis which are ment to look much better on 360



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I wonder if another dev will reference what he said here?



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NKAJ said:
nightsurge said:

^wow 2 stealth trolls in a row!   (well maybe just one... not sure if NKAJ was referring to 360 games coming soon that look better or games in general on both systems)


lol no i actually was reffering to rage and brink and crysis which are ment to look much better on 360

Yeah after I wrote that, that's what I figured which is why I edited my post with the stuff in parenthesese. 

libellule was still trolling, though, that's no secret.



No i can see 360 doing more.



 

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I come into these 360 threads now expecting the trolling. Positive articles are spun to make negative ones so was expecting this positive article to become a negative spin. Actually a pleasant suprise. Of course Greenawalt already has had his comments about Physics turned on its head in another thread.



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The max thing sounds funny when we are talking about a game many considered an average game. Please read feedback from peeps who tried the demo, here is the link:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=87101



fxa5209 said:
The max thing sounds funny when we are talking about a game many considered an average game. Please read feedback from peeps who tried the demo, here is the link:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=87101

Please realize you misread the title, then didn't read the OP, and just came here to troll.



I know what this guy is referring to, but... a lot of Arcade games only use a single core on the X360... does that qualify, in MS' 1st party book, as 100% usage?

...I think not. His statement only applies to non-parallel systems, wheres there's no actual idling (outside of cache misses, bad conditionals, etc... typical thread stalls) of cores.

This is MS PR trying to convince the uneducated that their competitors statements about core utilization somehow don't apply, because "all the world is a single core" or something. Its not even true on the 360 (although its much closer to being so, than a certain other competitor), so his statement (about 100% usage) is really meaningless.

 

On the other hand, its totally true that games that even use 100% of the cores can be optimized to use them better.  Therein is the important part of his statement...  Forza 4 will be even better, by the hand of the engineers who created it (as opposed to just via hardware).



 

^For the most part this generation has been non-parallel. It has been multithreaded, that's for sure, but not parallel. I don't even think the Cell can be considered parallel programming since it uses one true core and 7/8 virtual cores (much like multithreading).

I think his statement taken word for word like you did is obviously not always correct. It was a simple generalization and just focusing on the fact that every developer will do their best to get the most out of their game, but that any future game is obviously going to be better because of their increased knowledge and experience so any statement saying "maxed out" or "100% usage" is just silly.