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outlawauron on 23 September 2009
Soriku said:
wenlan said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:

FFXIII could very well fail in sales.  SE has placed way too much faith on this title.  Realistically, this title needs to sell over 2 million units just to make a solid profit.  And probably 3-4 million just to be a 'success'.  And even then, it's going to be less sales than DQIX will get, a DS title with a much lower development cost and international expectations.

Also, in reference to your points:

-Final Fantasy being 'JRPG flagship franchise' is arguable.  In Japan, its Dragon Quest.  In America, Final Fantasy already is losing dominance to series such as Namco's Tales series, Atlus titles such as Disgaea and of course, the machine that is known as Pokemon.

-WRPGs, while showing their own in quality games in recent years still aren't topping JRPGs in sales or sheer number of titles produced.

-Is Final Fantasy really half your Gaming line-up?  And will One failed game kill your gaming life?

-SquareEnix won't be finished by FFXIII.  It may be a good thing if FFXIII flopped.  They've been relying on FF for WAY too long, always making each next title more and more expensive and bigger, at the expense of all their other titles.

-Sure would.

Personally, I'm not rooting for FFXIII to fail, but SE DESPERATELY needs a dose of bitter medicine.  Their only idea of how to make money is 'throw more money into development' and 'make it with more FMVs'.  And I fear the only way their going to learn to change this practice is to have one of their flagship titles fail.

Come on now. Please don't tell me you actually believe that crap.

I think he does.....  Soriku effect is bigger than what we think.....

DQ is not the only flagship franchise for RPG in Japan.  DQ, FF, and Pokemon are the major 3 players in the RPG field, nothing can/will change that.  Their fanbase may overlap at certain level, but not completely.




@outlaw

How is Tales in decline? The 360 didn't have the best suitable fanbase for ToV (the PS3 does), and ToS: DotNW a spinoff. And it's like the best selling spin off too. The DS Tales aren't even made by the 'major' Tales studios (Destiny and Symphonia. Only some members but not the core teams.) and all the PSP gets is spinoffs. The series is declining based on what?

Let me know when Tales of Graces sells over 600k in Japan only.

It won't because the series is in a decline.



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outlawauron on 23 September 2009
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:

-Final Fantasy being 'JRPG flagship franchise' is arguable.  In Japan, its Dragon Quest.  In America, Final Fantasy already is losing dominance to series such as Namco's Tales series, Atlus titles such as Disgaea and of course, the machine that is known as Pokemon.

Come on now. Please don't tell me you actually believe that crap.

Uh...many of the same people who are heavy console RPG fans play both series.  I already know countless people who have passed up major Final Fantasy releases for Tales games, Disgaea sequels, Persona, Fire Emblem or the other major title I named, Pokemon.  Why else do you think many of the Final Fantasy remakes and sequels as of late have been of such low sales (aside from the obvious oversaturation)?  FFIVDS, FFTactics Advance 2, FFTactics Remake, etc.  These all underperformed beyond expectations.

lol, that's good. Compare the sales of remakes to the full fledged titles in their respective series. Let's see when Final Fantasy XIII sells more than every Tales game, every game Atlus has ever published, Fire Emblem, and I could go on.

Let me know whenever a Tale, a Disgaea, or Persona sells over 2 million in the West. Or even 2 million worldwide.

Okay guys, get all huffy if you want, but I provided multiple examples.  And that was the point.  Each subsequent major FF game has sold less.  And the non main FF games are also not selling as well as projected to.  Why?  Because they aren't the #1RPG on the block anymore.  There's major competition now adays.  If you think these other series aren't worthy of being considered just because they haven't sold multi-millions yet, then that's your problem.  But there's also something to be said when there's 10 major RPG series buying for the spot where only 1-2 previously competed with FF in the SNES/PSX gens.

ANd you still haven't accounted for the loss in sales at any rate.  Are you wanting to just blame it all on oversaturation of the series?

But Tales is in a huge decline and other series are also in a decline such as Disgaea and Star Ocean. The only JRPG series that is on the upswing, that I can think of, is Persona. That has more to do with exposure through the net though. I really don't think down FF sales are because of more compeitition, because if that was true, then the other series would have picked up. (which isn't the case)

And, the SNES/PSX were a lot more crowded than what we currently have. Especially on the quality front.

And what you're comparing is entirely stupid. You can not compare remakes to main titles. Compare the FF4 remake on DS to the Tales of Eternia remake on PSP. Over 1 million vs. 300k.

First of all, I wasn't comparing any indavidual FF games to any indavidual games in any other series.  My original point was to say that FF games were losing dominance because a number of other RPG series (combined) had come along to challenge its dominance by giving a number of examples.

Second of all, I don't think Tales is in a 'huge decline'.  All JRPGs on the 360 didn't sell well.  Hence why they're being ported to the PS3 now.  However, if you're going by the sales of Tales of Symphonia 2, maybe you have something there.

Also, I don't think Final Fantasy had as much competition on the SNES/PSX front.  Since a lot of the competition either wasn't as popular or was made by Square or the later company that would be merged with Square (Enix).  And especially if you're going to make a big stink that series like Tales or Atlus based series aren't major players, then what kind of competition did Final Fantasy ever have beyond DQ or Pokemon?

I understand that, but the sales of those other series are not increasing either. (with the exception of Persona which I mentioned)

I think Tales is a huge decline due to waining popularity of the series in Japan. It seems that the sales get worse with each and every generation. I mean the ones on PS1 almost sold 1 million only in Japan! Abyss sold a little over 600k, and we both know Graces or Vesperia will not come close to that.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 23 September 2009
wenlan said:
^^^ it's won't be fatal for SE 'cause "Batman" have saved SE already.

I hope you are joking

Batman: Arkham Asylum is selling well, but it doesn't miracles, and franchise royalties add to console ones denting its profits, S-E relies a lot on FF, and FFXIII is currently the main title of the series.

But obviously we are hypothetically speaking, the likelihood of a real flop is almost inexistent, too many gamers are waiting for it and PS3 hasn't got a FF released for it yet, the worst it can possibly happen is that it doesn't sell as good as its predecessors.

Comparing first FF title for PS3 to the first, and most successful, one for PS2, FFX, to try to predict anything is very difficult, though, because when it launched PS2 had smaller WW sales, but almost double Japan ones, also because PS2 launched a lot earlier there. So we'll have to wait and see.

 



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Snake612 on 23 September 2009

I don't think it is humanly possible. The game sales could probably not live up to its hype but thats only if the game doesn't get good promotion. However, this is Final Fantasy we are talking about! Its a huge series, the game could not flop. Its one of the most highly anticpated games this geneartion since Halo 3. Even if we are hypothetically speaking, this game could not flop.



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Kenryoku_Maxis on 23 September 2009
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:

-Final Fantasy being 'JRPG flagship franchise' is arguable.  In Japan, its Dragon Quest.  In America, Final Fantasy already is losing dominance to series such as Namco's Tales series, Atlus titles such as Disgaea and of course, the machine that is known as Pokemon.

Come on now. Please don't tell me you actually believe that crap.

Uh...many of the same people who are heavy console RPG fans play both series.  I already know countless people who have passed up major Final Fantasy releases for Tales games, Disgaea sequels, Persona, Fire Emblem or the other major title I named, Pokemon.  Why else do you think many of the Final Fantasy remakes and sequels as of late have been of such low sales (aside from the obvious oversaturation)?  FFIVDS, FFTactics Advance 2, FFTactics Remake, etc.  These all underperformed beyond expectations.

lol, that's good. Compare the sales of remakes to the full fledged titles in their respective series. Let's see when Final Fantasy XIII sells more than every Tales game, every game Atlus has ever published, Fire Emblem, and I could go on.

Let me know whenever a Tale, a Disgaea, or Persona sells over 2 million in the West. Or even 2 million worldwide.

Okay guys, get all huffy if you want, but I provided multiple examples.  And that was the point.  Each subsequent major FF game has sold less.  And the non main FF games are also not selling as well as projected to.  Why?  Because they aren't the #1RPG on the block anymore.  There's major competition now adays.  If you think these other series aren't worthy of being considered just because they haven't sold multi-millions yet, then that's your problem.  But there's also something to be said when there's 10 major RPG series buying for the spot where only 1-2 previously competed with FF in the SNES/PSX gens.

ANd you still haven't accounted for the loss in sales at any rate.  Are you wanting to just blame it all on oversaturation of the series?

But Tales is in a huge decline and other series are also in a decline such as Disgaea and Star Ocean. The only JRPG series that is on the upswing, that I can think of, is Persona. That has more to do with exposure through the net though. I really don't think down FF sales are because of more compeitition, because if that was true, then the other series would have picked up. (which isn't the case)

And, the SNES/PSX were a lot more crowded than what we currently have. Especially on the quality front.

And what you're comparing is entirely stupid. You can not compare remakes to main titles. Compare the FF4 remake on DS to the Tales of Eternia remake on PSP. Over 1 million vs. 300k.

First of all, I wasn't comparing any indavidual FF games to any indavidual games in any other series.  My original point was to say that FF games were losing dominance because a number of other RPG series (combined) had come along to challenge its dominance by giving a number of examples.

Second of all, I don't think Tales is in a 'huge decline'.  All JRPGs on the 360 didn't sell well.  Hence why they're being ported to the PS3 now.  However, if you're going by the sales of Tales of Symphonia 2, maybe you have something there.

Also, I don't think Final Fantasy had as much competition on the SNES/PSX front.  Since a lot of the competition either wasn't as popular or was made by Square or the later company that would be merged with Square (Enix).  And especially if you're going to make a big stink that series like Tales or Atlus based series aren't major players, then what kind of competition did Final Fantasy ever have beyond DQ or Pokemon?

I understand that, but the sales of those other series are not increasing either. (with the exception of Persona which I mentioned)

I think Tales is a huge decline due to waining popularity of the series in Japan. It seems that the sales get worse with each and every generation. I mean the ones on PS1 almost sold 1 million only in Japan! Abyss sold a little over 600k, and we both know Graces or Vesperia will not come close to that.

Again, I think your confusing waining popularity with companies making bad marketing decisions.  Most of the major Japanese developers this gen stuck their major RPG releases on consoles like 360 and PSP, skipping over Nintendos platforms for the first few years.  When clearly Nintendos platforms were the more popular (in Japan and otherwise).  This doesn't Mean Tales is in decline, it just means they didn't target their fanbase and paid the price (just like most RPG companies).  But also like most RPG companies, Namco is porting their games super quick to other consoles.



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outlawauron on 23 September 2009
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:

-Final Fantasy being 'JRPG flagship franchise' is arguable.  In Japan, its Dragon Quest.  In America, Final Fantasy already is losing dominance to series such as Namco's Tales series, Atlus titles such as Disgaea and of course, the machine that is known as Pokemon.

Come on now. Please don't tell me you actually believe that crap.

Uh...many of the same people who are heavy console RPG fans play both series.  I already know countless people who have passed up major Final Fantasy releases for Tales games, Disgaea sequels, Persona, Fire Emblem or the other major title I named, Pokemon.  Why else do you think many of the Final Fantasy remakes and sequels as of late have been of such low sales (aside from the obvious oversaturation)?  FFIVDS, FFTactics Advance 2, FFTactics Remake, etc.  These all underperformed beyond expectations.

lol, that's good. Compare the sales of remakes to the full fledged titles in their respective series. Let's see when Final Fantasy XIII sells more than every Tales game, every game Atlus has ever published, Fire Emblem, and I could go on.

Let me know whenever a Tale, a Disgaea, or Persona sells over 2 million in the West. Or even 2 million worldwide.

Okay guys, get all huffy if you want, but I provided multiple examples.  And that was the point.  Each subsequent major FF game has sold less.  And the non main FF games are also not selling as well as projected to.  Why?  Because they aren't the #1RPG on the block anymore.  There's major competition now adays.  If you think these other series aren't worthy of being considered just because they haven't sold multi-millions yet, then that's your problem.  But there's also something to be said when there's 10 major RPG series buying for the spot where only 1-2 previously competed with FF in the SNES/PSX gens.

ANd you still haven't accounted for the loss in sales at any rate.  Are you wanting to just blame it all on oversaturation of the series?

But Tales is in a huge decline and other series are also in a decline such as Disgaea and Star Ocean. The only JRPG series that is on the upswing, that I can think of, is Persona. That has more to do with exposure through the net though. I really don't think down FF sales are because of more compeitition, because if that was true, then the other series would have picked up. (which isn't the case)

And, the SNES/PSX were a lot more crowded than what we currently have. Especially on the quality front.

And what you're comparing is entirely stupid. You can not compare remakes to main titles. Compare the FF4 remake on DS to the Tales of Eternia remake on PSP. Over 1 million vs. 300k.

First of all, I wasn't comparing any indavidual FF games to any indavidual games in any other series.  My original point was to say that FF games were losing dominance because a number of other RPG series (combined) had come along to challenge its dominance by giving a number of examples.

Second of all, I don't think Tales is in a 'huge decline'.  All JRPGs on the 360 didn't sell well.  Hence why they're being ported to the PS3 now.  However, if you're going by the sales of Tales of Symphonia 2, maybe you have something there.

Also, I don't think Final Fantasy had as much competition on the SNES/PSX front.  Since a lot of the competition either wasn't as popular or was made by Square or the later company that would be merged with Square (Enix).  And especially if you're going to make a big stink that series like Tales or Atlus based series aren't major players, then what kind of competition did Final Fantasy ever have beyond DQ or Pokemon?

I understand that, but the sales of those other series are not increasing either. (with the exception of Persona which I mentioned)

I think Tales is a huge decline due to waining popularity of the series in Japan. It seems that the sales get worse with each and every generation. I mean the ones on PS1 almost sold 1 million only in Japan! Abyss sold a little over 600k, and we both know Graces or Vesperia will not come close to that.

Again, I think your confusing waining popularity with companies making bad marketing decisions.  Most of the major Japanese developers this gen stuck their major RPG releases on consoles like 360 and PSP, skipping over Nintendos platforms for the first few years.  When clearly Nintendos platforms were the more popular (in Japan and otherwise).  This doesn't Mean Tales is in decline, it just means they didn't target their fanbase and paid the price (just like most RPG companies).  But also like most RPG companies, Namco is porting their games super quick to other consoles.

Who stuck their major RPG releases on PSP in the early years? I can't think of a single one.



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Kenryoku_Maxis on 23 September 2009
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:

-Final Fantasy being 'JRPG flagship franchise' is arguable.  In Japan, its Dragon Quest.  In America, Final Fantasy already is losing dominance to series such as Namco's Tales series, Atlus titles such as Disgaea and of course, the machine that is known as Pokemon.

Come on now. Please don't tell me you actually believe that crap.

Uh...many of the same people who are heavy console RPG fans play both series.  I already know countless people who have passed up major Final Fantasy releases for Tales games, Disgaea sequels, Persona, Fire Emblem or the other major title I named, Pokemon.  Why else do you think many of the Final Fantasy remakes and sequels as of late have been of such low sales (aside from the obvious oversaturation)?  FFIVDS, FFTactics Advance 2, FFTactics Remake, etc.  These all underperformed beyond expectations.

lol, that's good. Compare the sales of remakes to the full fledged titles in their respective series. Let's see when Final Fantasy XIII sells more than every Tales game, every game Atlus has ever published, Fire Emblem, and I could go on.

Let me know whenever a Tale, a Disgaea, or Persona sells over 2 million in the West. Or even 2 million worldwide.

Okay guys, get all huffy if you want, but I provided multiple examples.  And that was the point.  Each subsequent major FF game has sold less.  And the non main FF games are also not selling as well as projected to.  Why?  Because they aren't the #1RPG on the block anymore.  There's major competition now adays.  If you think these other series aren't worthy of being considered just because they haven't sold multi-millions yet, then that's your problem.  But there's also something to be said when there's 10 major RPG series buying for the spot where only 1-2 previously competed with FF in the SNES/PSX gens.

ANd you still haven't accounted for the loss in sales at any rate.  Are you wanting to just blame it all on oversaturation of the series?

But Tales is in a huge decline and other series are also in a decline such as Disgaea and Star Ocean. The only JRPG series that is on the upswing, that I can think of, is Persona. That has more to do with exposure through the net though. I really don't think down FF sales are because of more compeitition, because if that was true, then the other series would have picked up. (which isn't the case)

And, the SNES/PSX were a lot more crowded than what we currently have. Especially on the quality front.

And what you're comparing is entirely stupid. You can not compare remakes to main titles. Compare the FF4 remake on DS to the Tales of Eternia remake on PSP. Over 1 million vs. 300k.

First of all, I wasn't comparing any indavidual FF games to any indavidual games in any other series.  My original point was to say that FF games were losing dominance because a number of other RPG series (combined) had come along to challenge its dominance by giving a number of examples.

Second of all, I don't think Tales is in a 'huge decline'.  All JRPGs on the 360 didn't sell well.  Hence why they're being ported to the PS3 now.  However, if you're going by the sales of Tales of Symphonia 2, maybe you have something there.

Also, I don't think Final Fantasy had as much competition on the SNES/PSX front.  Since a lot of the competition either wasn't as popular or was made by Square or the later company that would be merged with Square (Enix).  And especially if you're going to make a big stink that series like Tales or Atlus based series aren't major players, then what kind of competition did Final Fantasy ever have beyond DQ or Pokemon?

I understand that, but the sales of those other series are not increasing either. (with the exception of Persona which I mentioned)

I think Tales is a huge decline due to waining popularity of the series in Japan. It seems that the sales get worse with each and every generation. I mean the ones on PS1 almost sold 1 million only in Japan! Abyss sold a little over 600k, and we both know Graces or Vesperia will not come close to that.

Again, I think your confusing waining popularity with companies making bad marketing decisions.  Most of the major Japanese developers this gen stuck their major RPG releases on consoles like 360 and PSP, skipping over Nintendos platforms for the first few years.  When clearly Nintendos platforms were the more popular (in Japan and otherwise).  This doesn't Mean Tales is in decline, it just means they didn't target their fanbase and paid the price (just like most RPG companies).  But also like most RPG companies, Namco is porting their games super quick to other consoles.

Who stuck their major RPG releases on PSP in the early years? I can't think of a single one.

Namco, KOEI, Atlus, Konami, etc.  Heck, Tales of Eternia PSP came out in 2005 in Japan.



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outlawauron on 23 September 2009
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:

-Final Fantasy being 'JRPG flagship franchise' is arguable.  In Japan, its Dragon Quest.  In America, Final Fantasy already is losing dominance to series such as Namco's Tales series, Atlus titles such as Disgaea and of course, the machine that is known as Pokemon.

Come on now. Please don't tell me you actually believe that crap.

Uh...many of the same people who are heavy console RPG fans play both series.  I already know countless people who have passed up major Final Fantasy releases for Tales games, Disgaea sequels, Persona, Fire Emblem or the other major title I named, Pokemon.  Why else do you think many of the Final Fantasy remakes and sequels as of late have been of such low sales (aside from the obvious oversaturation)?  FFIVDS, FFTactics Advance 2, FFTactics Remake, etc.  These all underperformed beyond expectations.

lol, that's good. Compare the sales of remakes to the full fledged titles in their respective series. Let's see when Final Fantasy XIII sells more than every Tales game, every game Atlus has ever published, Fire Emblem, and I could go on.

Let me know whenever a Tale, a Disgaea, or Persona sells over 2 million in the West. Or even 2 million worldwide.

Okay guys, get all huffy if you want, but I provided multiple examples.  And that was the point.  Each subsequent major FF game has sold less.  And the non main FF games are also not selling as well as projected to.  Why?  Because they aren't the #1RPG on the block anymore.  There's major competition now adays.  If you think these other series aren't worthy of being considered just because they haven't sold multi-millions yet, then that's your problem.  But there's also something to be said when there's 10 major RPG series buying for the spot where only 1-2 previously competed with FF in the SNES/PSX gens.

ANd you still haven't accounted for the loss in sales at any rate.  Are you wanting to just blame it all on oversaturation of the series?

But Tales is in a huge decline and other series are also in a decline such as Disgaea and Star Ocean. The only JRPG series that is on the upswing, that I can think of, is Persona. That has more to do with exposure through the net though. I really don't think down FF sales are because of more compeitition, because if that was true, then the other series would have picked up. (which isn't the case)

And, the SNES/PSX were a lot more crowded than what we currently have. Especially on the quality front.

And what you're comparing is entirely stupid. You can not compare remakes to main titles. Compare the FF4 remake on DS to the Tales of Eternia remake on PSP. Over 1 million vs. 300k.

First of all, I wasn't comparing any indavidual FF games to any indavidual games in any other series.  My original point was to say that FF games were losing dominance because a number of other RPG series (combined) had come along to challenge its dominance by giving a number of examples.

Second of all, I don't think Tales is in a 'huge decline'.  All JRPGs on the 360 didn't sell well.  Hence why they're being ported to the PS3 now.  However, if you're going by the sales of Tales of Symphonia 2, maybe you have something there.

Also, I don't think Final Fantasy had as much competition on the SNES/PSX front.  Since a lot of the competition either wasn't as popular or was made by Square or the later company that would be merged with Square (Enix).  And especially if you're going to make a big stink that series like Tales or Atlus based series aren't major players, then what kind of competition did Final Fantasy ever have beyond DQ or Pokemon?

I understand that, but the sales of those other series are not increasing either. (with the exception of Persona which I mentioned)

I think Tales is a huge decline due to waining popularity of the series in Japan. It seems that the sales get worse with each and every generation. I mean the ones on PS1 almost sold 1 million only in Japan! Abyss sold a little over 600k, and we both know Graces or Vesperia will not come close to that.

Again, I think your confusing waining popularity with companies making bad marketing decisions.  Most of the major Japanese developers this gen stuck their major RPG releases on consoles like 360 and PSP, skipping over Nintendos platforms for the first few years.  When clearly Nintendos platforms were the more popular (in Japan and otherwise).  This doesn't Mean Tales is in decline, it just means they didn't target their fanbase and paid the price (just like most RPG companies).  But also like most RPG companies, Namco is porting their games super quick to other consoles.

Who stuck their major RPG releases on PSP in the early years? I can't think of a single one.

Namco, KOEI, Atlus, Konami, etc.  Heck, Tales of Eternia PSP came out in 2005 in Japan.

Did they?

Tales of Eternia was a PS1 port with no extra changes.

Atlus hasn't put anything major on PSP up until the recent Persona remake.

Koei hasn't even put out a PSP RPG.

Konami put Portable Ops which sold very well, and put the Suikoden compilation on PSP, but never brought it outside of Japan.



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AlkamistStar on 23 September 2009
Vanversive said:
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Somewhere along these lines, lol



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Kenryoku_Maxis on 23 September 2009
outlawauron said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
outlawauron said:

Who stuck their major RPG releases on PSP in the early years? I can't think of a single one.

Namco, KOEI, Atlus, Konami, etc.  Heck, Tales of Eternia PSP came out in 2005 in Japan.

Did they?

Tales of Eternia was a PS1 port with no extra changes.

Atlus hasn't put anything major on PSP up until the recent Persona remake.

Koei hasn't even put out a PSP RPG.

Konami put Portable Ops which sold very well, and put the Suikoden compilation on PSP, but never brought it outside of Japan.

Whoops, yeah, the KOEI game I thought was an RPG isn't.

However, Atlus started putting RPGs back on PSP in 2005, with a port of Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Summoner.

While most of the early RPGs on PSP were ports, that's when they started putting stuff on the system.  Further showing the limited support for RPGs this gen.



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