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darthdevidem01 on 20 September 2009
Munkeh111 said:
Son1x said:
Munkeh111 said:
So very very wrong.

Uncharted has only sold about 500k in forced bundles, and there is a big difference between being a launch game, and being a holiday 2007 game. The argument that there were no other games to play is complete and utter crap, Ratchet and Clank, Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed all came out then, and they were all fantastic games.

The reason people expect much higher sales for Uncharted is because of the extra value. Personally, I am very happy to pay full price for an 8 hour game, because it is so good, however, without any multiplayer, many will probably have just rented this, because they think one playthrough is enough (I will be going for my 5th in the week before U2 releases). In Uncharted 2 there is co-op, multiplayer and a longer story. And what else is there in October, Brutal Legend on the same day, and while that will be a good game, don't expect huge sales from it, and then Ratchet later in the month, and I think most people will choose Uncharted 2 over Ratchet (I am getting both)

On the other hand, Resistance 2 was launched at the same time as Call of Duty World at War and Gears of War 2 (and don't say that would have not affected it, I would have bought it if it were not for Gears of War 2), while it did have 60 player multiplayer and its own co-op mode, Resistance 1 had co-op and multiplayer, so the difference is not that huge

There are no comparisons to be drawn here, the sales of the first are very different for various reasons, and the competition for the upcoming launches are different. Oh yes, did Resistance 2 win best game of E3, and have nothing but glowing previews whenever anyone has seen it? Uncharted 2 will certainly sell 3m, and I predict about 650k first week

I agree with this.

 

And wth, you have 12k posts but I never saw you before? o.O
Did you have a different avatar maybe? 

I just changed from the monkey sipping tea! (Though I had a Nate avatar last year)

and you will have a FF13 avatar next year!!

we need to go all out to hype that game munkeh!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

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czecherychestnut on 20 September 2009

As said before, Uncharted also has a very loyal fanbase, many of which hold Uncharted as one of the best games on PS3 (me included), so the number of Uncharted 2 buyers will at least be similar to the first one, hype and the much larger install base will do the rest. Resistance 2 failed because it was released into a sea of great FPS's, Motorstorm 2 didn't really add much to the original, whereas Uncharted 2 is still fairly unique and being released into a sparsely occupied genre on PS3. I'd say 3 - 4 mil is realistic.



JerCotter7 on 20 September 2009

First motorstorm sucked so why would anyone buy the second one.

First resistance was alright because it was the only game to play at the time. Insomniac should just concintrate on making one rachet and clank game every 2 years.

First uncharted was one of the best games on PS3 and the second looks to improve upon that.



Squall_Leonhart on 20 September 2009

I agree that Uncharted 2 is either going to sell on par with the previous game or outsell it. The comparison made with Resistance 1&2 cannot be taken into account as the circumstances around the lower sales for the 2nd game, which have already been stated, are not present on the release of Uncharted 2



libellule on 20 September 2009

I completely see your point

but I expect the whole industry (gaming press/media) will support UC2

I mean, R2 was never supposed to be game of the year ... UC2 may be !

+ Slim PS3 + price drop + no Gears of War 2 + MARKETING + multiplayer !!!



Time to Work !

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Infinity on 20 September 2009

Uncharted is nothing like Resistance or Motorstorm. This is a totally different league of quality gaming. Resistance and Motorstorm series are mediocre at best and deserve declining sales with each iteration. Uncharted is amazing.



Munkeh111 on 20 September 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
Munkeh111 said:
Son1x said:
Munkeh111 said:
So very very wrong.

Uncharted has only sold about 500k in forced bundles, and there is a big difference between being a launch game, and being a holiday 2007 game. The argument that there were no other games to play is complete and utter crap, Ratchet and Clank, Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed all came out then, and they were all fantastic games.

The reason people expect much higher sales for Uncharted is because of the extra value. Personally, I am very happy to pay full price for an 8 hour game, because it is so good, however, without any multiplayer, many will probably have just rented this, because they think one playthrough is enough (I will be going for my 5th in the week before U2 releases). In Uncharted 2 there is co-op, multiplayer and a longer story. And what else is there in October, Brutal Legend on the same day, and while that will be a good game, don't expect huge sales from it, and then Ratchet later in the month, and I think most people will choose Uncharted 2 over Ratchet (I am getting both)

On the other hand, Resistance 2 was launched at the same time as Call of Duty World at War and Gears of War 2 (and don't say that would have not affected it, I would have bought it if it were not for Gears of War 2), while it did have 60 player multiplayer and its own co-op mode, Resistance 1 had co-op and multiplayer, so the difference is not that huge

There are no comparisons to be drawn here, the sales of the first are very different for various reasons, and the competition for the upcoming launches are different. Oh yes, did Resistance 2 win best game of E3, and have nothing but glowing previews whenever anyone has seen it? Uncharted 2 will certainly sell 3m, and I predict about 650k first week

I agree with this.

 

And wth, you have 12k posts but I never saw you before? o.O
Did you have a different avatar maybe? 

I just changed from the monkey sipping tea! (Though I had a Nate avatar last year)

and you will have a FF13 avatar next year!!

we need to go all out to hype that game munkeh!

Well, I have basically only ever had monkey is Nate, so it would be a radical change...



Dgc1808 on 20 September 2009

Didn't Uncharted1 sell 2M BEFORE it was bundled???

Also, Resistance 2 releases around WaW, and in the shadow of KZ2.



4 ≈ One

Munkeh111 on 20 September 2009
Dgc1808 said:
Didn't Uncharted1 sell 2M BEFORE it was bundled???

Also, Resistance 2 releases around WaW, and in the shadow of KZ2.

The NPD has it as between 500k and 750k as of April without bundles, so in the US there have fewer than 500k copies sold as part of bundles. In Europe, there are loads of small bundles, but always a choice in what game, so those sales are indicative of a desire to buy the game, so will likely translate in Uncharted 2 sales



Magnific0 on 20 September 2009
Slimebeast said:
So wrong bugrimmar, so wrong...


QFT....

@bugrimmar  You compare the game to a FPS then you predict its sales based on the proximity of its release to a (albeit very popular) FPS relase?? WTF?

 

First of all, there's is NOTHING coming out that can compare directly to the Uncharted 2 experience, nothing really. No other game is like it this whole year. If anyone wants her/his FPS fix then great, there are even different options out there this year: Killzone 2, Halo 3 ODST, COD MW2. Uncharted is unique, that's it.

Second, a number of factors in benefit of Uncharted 2:

A) It is getting a LOT more marketing support than the first one got during its release and prior to it (many MP betas, public open beta almost here too).

B) The PS3 is not $500-$400 now. The PS3 installed base is larger too.

C) PS3 sales are on the rise and the PS3 (slim) is the new "cool thing" right now.

D) Uncharted 2 is a more polished/bigger game than the first one and the reviews are starting to show it. It's DEFINITELY GOTY material, the first one, sadly but true, WAS NOT.

 

Third, I'd be more worried about  Assassin's Creed 2 (fuck it, I hated the first one). If PS3 owners will prefer that trash over the awesomeness that is U2AT (again), then the PS3 is really doomed (or maybe not, but C'MON!).