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The Bible actually lists different punishments for murdering a fetus, a baby under the age of 3, and somebody over the age of 3, meaning that in ye olde days when that ish was written they didn't believe you were fully human until the age of 3, and if you were killed before then it's like $5 bucks, and if you're killed in the womb it's like a slap on the wrist.



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I really wasn't expecting this..........




This picture was shown to be innacurate.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/thehand.asp

Bam! End of story.



Oh, I didn't know there was much of a story behind it other than the baby thrust his arm out...it's not that inaccurate anyway.



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dallas said:
This picture was shown to be innacurate.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/thehand.asp

Bam! End of story.

Actually, if you read your link, it wasn't the picture that was inaccurate, but the story that accompanied it. And it all depends on who you believe. The doctor says the photograph did not catch a baby's hand reaching out, but the doctor putting it back in when it "flopped" out. The photographer said he saw the baby grasp/squeeze the doctor's finger. But that is something only the doctor and the photographer can debate.



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The implication of the picture is that the fetus ( not baby, JMan) gripped the doctor's finger when the sac surrounding the fetus was opened up. In that sense, although the picture could have been real, meaning that there was no doctoring of the photo or any other hokum going on, the reality of the event was that there was no gripping going on b/c the fetus was anesthetized. 

@kenobi -  Again, the article said that the fetus was anesthetized, so there was no "thrusting" of the arms going on, but mabey you meant "flopping" out 



The surgeon called it a "baby"...you can call it a fetus or a baby, really.



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I'm sure that he did, but it is likely that he called it that b/c he is dealing with people. Some pregnant women wouludn't like their unborn to be referred to in such a clinical kind of manner, but technically anayway, it isn't a baby until it's born.



Well i meant recognizeable. Sure it takes time for a human to reach his full potential in the mental and physical field, but in this case, i'm refering to how he looks like. If the form is, with no exception, one head, two arms and legs, a little bump on the face meaning to be a nose, plus if there is a heartbeat! After such has been determined, abortions should be allowed only if the pregnancy should turn out to be lethal or health-impairing to the mother.



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Wojtas said:
Well i meant recognizeable. Sure it takes time for a human to reach his full potential in the mental and physical field, but in this case, i'm refering to how he looks like. If the form is, with no exception, one head, two arms and legs, a little bump on the face meaning to be a nose, plus if there is a heartbeat! After such has been determined, abortions should be allowed only if the pregnancy should turn out to be lethal or health-impairing to the mother.

What about deformities?  For instance, a fetus that had problems properly forming arms or such. 

 



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