I would rather not be born, if I would be born into trash.
-Kwaad

Good point, but nowadays it's a matter or performing an operation on the fetus/baby. Either they fix it or they don't. If the latter happens..Well, we're back at my danger/no danger to mother concept.

You said This picture was shown to be innacurate. I was merely correcting your mis-statement. It wasn't the photo, but the story that was inaccurate. The snopes site actually says the picture IS accruate and not doctored, according to the doctor (that's a joke -- a pun!)

In all honesty, I really didn't think about which word I chose to use. I saw the hand of what looked like a baby's hand, so I called it with the first word that came to my mind. I wasn't thinking of the fact that it was still legally a fetus.

I've personally had several cute fetuses that I watched while they were in the womb. The little fetuses showed some behaviors then, under the ultrasound scanner, that I see them do now, having passed all the legal requirements to be called citizens. They were active, and two of them were caught sucking their thumbs in the womb. I mean, how, as a parent, can you possibly get your child to stop sucking their thumb when they were doing it while they were fetuses? We even interacted, with the fetus pushing his little hand against his mommies stomache as I pressed it back. I loved them when they were only fetuses, and I love them now.

 I do not believe that you even know me, but you are correct.  Christian by it's very nature is radical.  Jesus was radical, the Bible is radical.  It's truth, and truth is radical.

Truth? What truth? You're right that christianity was radical, it slaughtered so many people during the past 1500 years that even WW2 casualties pale in comparison.

abortion does need to be used in some cases... it's a sad thing, but it is a necessity, even though I wouldn't like to admit it...

Christianity doesn't kill people.  Guns don't kill people.  People kill people. 

Competition and intolerance are usually the motivations and it isn't fair to just blame Christianity on that front.  The human mind conceptualizes the world and all things in it through labeling and grouping.  This allows an efficient mechanism for memory and problem solving.  Unfortunately, it also allows for placing preference orders on specific groupings.  Thus, we get things like chemistry, physics and social sciences as well as bigotry, racism, and the like. 

People tend to get encultrated inside of their large group (society), medium group (social group), and small group (family) and function well inside of those groups but intra-group dynamics can cause problems because the ideology of different groups don't always mesh.  This leads to competition for resources which can lead to anything from new ideas and progress or to wholesale slaughter of rival competition. 

Anthropologically speaking, violence is often a function of group dynamics where two subcultures have differences that cannot be fixed through compromise or where individuals aren't able to be properly enculturated.  Though, there is still other mechanisms that allow for individual agency and choice.

 The long and short of it is that blaming one specific belief group isn't useful, because the underlying mechanisms are there for all groups.  It's just a contigent historical fact that Christians have been in a position to be recognized for persecution and killings...it could have been any group, really. 

When it comes to christianity, and killing people, there is a great movie out on bluRay, that tells my feelings perfect. Kingdom of Heaven.

Watch it. And a quick history lesson. When christans take the city back, the kill all muslims. Man, woman, and child. (historically, takes place after the movie)

Christans have more blood on their hands than every other religion in the world combined. (and their not the biggest religion either)

I dont have too awefully much to speak about religion, other than I dont like it. In any public form. Religion should be kept to one's self, and one's god.

When it comes to life and death, a unborn 'fetus' is exactly that, a fetus. When do you consider a fetus 'alive' When the cells first divide? Becuase if a fetus with 16 cells has a soul, so does my dog. But the bible says my dog dont have a soul. When does a soul get attached to the fetus? Or even the infant child? When does a child become him/herself? In the womb?

if there is a risk, any risk at all to the mother, abortion should be allowed. I also feel, that population control needs to come into effect in america, by thinning out un-fit parrents. I also feel that if an abortion is necessary due to said, un-fit, both the biological mother and father should BOTH be fixed by law. (sterilized)

Then agian, I'm the one that thinks that illegals should be killed at a fireing squad, without trial. Give them 6 month warning to get the F* out of the US. After that, it's hunting season.

"Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." Mahatma Gandhi