In my home state its super hard to qualify for any kind of grant. In michigan if your parents make over 35k a year count yourself SOL for any kind of finanical aid.

Isn't that like being rich in Michigan?

haha yeah actually, its why I moved out west. Michigan has been in a sad state of affiars ever since I was little. It start around 96 to be honest. Worst part is I was dead center in the shit, born and raised in flint michigan, unlike michael moore who was from a suburb outside of flint called "davidson" but he sure likes to wear the flint banner.

I went to UNM in Albuquerque. Cost $75 a credit hour, and I worked my way through school waiting tables.

Congrats, Not that you need to prove your belief in your ideology to me. But out of curiousity did you get any grants before hand? I mean if you ace highschool, you usually get grants, if you're parents are poor you get grants, hell sometimes you get small grants just for going to college. Were you offered any? Are you still paying for college? Or did you just make a ridiculous amount of money waiting tables and were able to pay for school and living expenses off of tips? How long ago did you go to college? This isn't accusatory, just curiousity. Because even if you stuck up for your beliefs that's still just anecdotal, and while we can all give you a round of applause for being successful that doesn't say jack about todays young libertarian/republican college bound youths.

I didn't.  Though I went to a community college for 2 years then transfered to a 4 year.

Though i actually think government grants for schooling is a good idea.

The more educated the a populace is the better... and a lot of underprivldeged people's parents are so shitty they can't get regular loans.

Never fair that your parents having poor credit screws you.

Yeah, I didn't get any grants either. Due to some strange personal history I didn't qualify for anything related to school, my parents didn't have jack as far as money went, and I was too responsible to qualify for any of the "leg up" grants as it were. If I had been unemployed, and had ten kids by twelve different women then I would've gotten some cash, but no such luck for a guy that actually works to support himself.

Really, they should just be trying to force as many people into college as possible. Not really "FORCE" but you get the idea. The US is really starting to fall behind in terms of engineers and scientists compared to other countries to such an extent that it's ridiculous. All the capitalism in the world doesn't mean jack shit if you're country is grossly uneducated, and every other country is pumping out engineers. They really need to be finding ways to get people into school, because even if you're hard working and intelligent, getting into college is a pain in the ass and a huge financial risk that can ruin you for decades if you don't find high paying employment right away. I wonder how many geniuses are flipping burgers because they can't afford to throw down a few thousand dollars each semester, plus loans that must be paid after graduating in an incredibly uncertain market.

Grants or no grants, our higher education system is fucked and it's really going to show ten years from now and beyond (though it is already starting to show). They really need to find a way to get people into college in such a fashion that it isn't such a ridiculous burden and/or risk. Going to college shouldn't be something you're afraid will ruin you.

did you get any grants before hand?
No, The only assistance I got (and it's not really assistance), was I lived at the school in family student housing. It's an apartment complex for families that charge a low rent. I had a two bedroom apartment for $350 a month. I say it's not assistance, because it didn't cost more then that to house me. The place was run by the school, and that's just what it came out to be per family.

If the 4 years I went to school, I lived in this housing 1 year of it. The rest of the time I was in an apartment.

Were you offered any?
No, I was older when I went to school, so what my parents made was irrelevant. I didn't think to try for grant money. I figured I could afford it, so I just paid for it.

Are you still paying for college? Or did you just make a ridiculous amount of money waiting tables and were able to pay for school and living expenses off of tips?
At $75 a credit hour, that's only $2,250 a year, or  $187 a night. On a god day, I made $150 in tips working at Olive Garden. I paid for school as I went. I always bought used books and sold them back, so they didn't cost that much.

How long ago did you go to college?
1992-1995, so I know it cost a lot more today. Well, UNM is free if you graduate from a New Mexico High School now. If you have to pay for it, I am sure it cost a lot more. 

Damn, I wish I was gogin to college in the 90s. That's cheap. Tuition his skiyroketed. (Sorry maffood. I've been drinking, I normally respnond to you more respectuflly than this, but fuck it. It's furiday and I'm home alone, thtye say you shouldn't drink aloen but FUCK THEM.) I LOVE YOU MAFOO you seem leik a good guy even though I dont alwasy agree with you I d go get some drinks with you anyday. beer=peace.

lol, well drink up dude. About to crack my 4th beer... so this ones for you :)