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Avinash_Tyagi on 13 September 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

Historical trends? Answer me this...

When was the last time a 3rd or 2nd placed console was the 3rd fastest selling console in history?

You ARE underestimating the PS3, as Seece said.

And also, there was plenty of SW sold.

Its not the third fastest selling console in history PS1, PS2, Wii, sold faster than the PS3, probably others did as well in individual territories, remeber older consoles didn't have as much coverage WW as modern consoles do.

 

Also you are ignoring that population has grown and new markets have been covered in recent generations more than in earlier ones, the fact is the PS3 is still a third place console.

 

Also no there wasn't plenty of software sold, in US it fell 11% and in Japan it was kept up by Gundam



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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psrock on 13 September 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

Arent you tired of being wrong so many times with this subject, seriously, stay low on it, many have.

 

"Both 360 and PS3 will likely be in the 200K-250K range the week of the price drops, because they will basically split the new customers between them"

 

You expected nothing of this price cut , yet after it passes your expectation, you come up with a new excuse, let it go.



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Avinash_Tyagi on 13 September 2009
Seece said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

I agree it will have a sharp drop, however it's not going to settle around <150k. We'll soon see anyway.

Doesn't have to be 150K, but it will be under 200K, and probably will be under Wii's 180K a week average



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Seece on 13 September 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

I agree it will have a sharp drop, however it's not going to settle around <150k. We'll soon see anyway.

Doesn't have to be 150K, but it will be under 200K, and probably will be under Wii's 180K a week average

Nah, sounds like you just want that to happen, some people (such as yourself) think if they hope hard enough it will happen.

 

Just look at your sig, after every prediction there is going to be "I Was Wrong!!!"



 

Avinash_Tyagi on 13 September 2009
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

Arent you tired of being wrong so many times with this subject, seriously, stay low on it, many have.

 

"Both 360 and PS3 will likely be in the 200K-250K range the week of the price drops, because they will basically split the new customers between them"

 

You expected nothing of this price cut , yet after it passes your expectation, you come up with a new excuse, let it go.


  So it passed my expectations (and that of most) so what's your point?  If I had a 100% track record I would be selling my figures to companies, not talking on a forum about them



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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Carl on 13 September 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

Historical trends? Answer me this...

When was the last time a 3rd or 2nd placed console was the 3rd fastest selling console in history?

You ARE underestimating the PS3, as Seece said.

And also, there was plenty of SW sold.

Its not the third fastest selling console in history PS1, PS2, Wii, sold faster than the PS3, probably others did as well in individual territories, remeber older consoles didn't have as much coverage WW as modern consoles do.

 

Also you are ignoring that population has grown and new markets have been covered in recent generations more than in earlier ones, the fact is the PS3 is still a third place console.

 

Also no there wasn't plenty of software sold, in US it fell 11% and in Japan it was kept up by Gundam

PS3 got to 23.93 Million quicker than PS1 did.

PS3, so far... > PS1

In US the week before it, Batman was released and the Slim had already been out a week in a few places.

Japan... wow, the SW was held up by the biggest game released that week. Shocking news!



                            

Seece on 13 September 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

Historical trends? Answer me this...

When was the last time a 3rd or 2nd placed console was the 3rd fastest selling console in history?

You ARE underestimating the PS3, as Seece said.

And also, there was plenty of SW sold.

Its not the third fastest selling console in history PS1, PS2, Wii, sold faster than the PS3, probably others did as well in individual territories, remeber older consoles didn't have as much coverage WW as modern consoles do.

 

Also you are ignoring that population has grown and new markets have been covered in recent generations more than in earlier ones, the fact is the PS3 is still a third place console.

 

Also no there wasn't plenty of software sold, in US it fell 11% and in Japan it was kept up by Gundam

PS3 got to 23.93 Million quicker than PS1 did.

PS3, so far... > PS1

In US the week before it, Batman was released and the Slim had already been out a week in a few places.

Japan... wow, the SW was held up by the biggest game released that week. Shocking news!

You should not use the PS1 timeline VGChartz has Carl, go with Shipped figures.



 

psrock on 13 September 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

Arent you tired of being wrong so many times with this subject, seriously, stay low on it, many have.

 

"Both 360 and PS3 will likely be in the 200K-250K range the week of the price drops, because they will basically split the new customers between them"

 

You expected nothing of this price cut , yet after it passes your expectation, you come up with a new excuse, let it go.


  So it passed my expectations (and that of most) so what's your point?  If I had a 100% track record I would be selling my figures to companies, not talking on a forum about them

You are not GOOD at predicting, that's my point. I can't wii for the Wii to pass the PS2 next year, haha.



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Carl on 13 September 2009
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

Historical trends? Answer me this...

When was the last time a 3rd or 2nd placed console was the 3rd fastest selling console in history?

You ARE underestimating the PS3, as Seece said.

And also, there was plenty of SW sold.

Its not the third fastest selling console in history PS1, PS2, Wii, sold faster than the PS3, probably others did as well in individual territories, remeber older consoles didn't have as much coverage WW as modern consoles do.

 

Also you are ignoring that population has grown and new markets have been covered in recent generations more than in earlier ones, the fact is the PS3 is still a third place console.

 

Also no there wasn't plenty of software sold, in US it fell 11% and in Japan it was kept up by Gundam

PS3 got to 23.93 Million quicker than PS1 did.

PS3, so far... > PS1

In US the week before it, Batman was released and the Slim had already been out a week in a few places.

Japan... wow, the SW was held up by the biggest game released that week. Shocking news!

You should not use the PS1 timeline VGChartz has Carl, go with Shipped figures.

I know, but even then... im 99% positive what i say is true.



                            

Avinash_Tyagi on 13 September 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Seece said:
People are really underestimating the PS3 ...

No, I'm just taking historical trends with price cuts, especially of second and third place systems, and the fact that the PS3 didn't move much software with the price cut, just hardware, indicating either people just wanted the blu-ray capability, or it was a lot of upgrades, and the fact that I haven't heard of any rabid demand after the first week, indicating most of the demand was satisfied early

Historical trends? Answer me this...

When was the last time a 3rd or 2nd placed console was the 3rd fastest selling console in history?

You ARE underestimating the PS3, as Seece said.

And also, there was plenty of SW sold.

Its not the third fastest selling console in history PS1, PS2, Wii, sold faster than the PS3, probably others did as well in individual territories, remeber older consoles didn't have as much coverage WW as modern consoles do.

 

Also you are ignoring that population has grown and new markets have been covered in recent generations more than in earlier ones, the fact is the PS3 is still a third place console.

 

Also no there wasn't plenty of software sold, in US it fell 11% and in Japan it was kept up by Gundam

PS3 got to 23.93 Million quicker than PS1 did.

PS3, so far... > PS1

In US the week before it, Batman was released and the Slim had already been out a week in a few places.

Japan... wow, the SW was held up by the biggest game released that week. Shocking news!

Actually, PS1 had shipped 50 million consoles by March 1999, about 3 and a half years after launch, PS3 is currently just under three years old with only 23.97 million sold, so its pretty clear that PS1 sold faster.

Even allowing for Arkham and the early release of the slim, PS3 software still sold well under a million both weeks, and only a bit over the 500K it had been selling before, and Arkham isn't likely to keep selling that high for many weeks.

 Ah, but Gundam isn't going to stay up very long, that's my point, its not going to keep these sales up



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)