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| Avinash_Tyagi said: Kinda proves my point that software is the big reason for console success, Wii has the software, even now, and its yearly drop is because its software sin;t as strong as last year, also if PS3 can't outsell the Wii's software, it'll never be the market leader, even if it has a price drop, and its sales spike will fall off, since there is nothing beyond the price cut to sustain it, also look at other weeks, Wii still outsold the PS3 with less consoles and without Mario kart Wii http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39474&console=&maker=&boxartz=1#
No Mario Kart, no Brawl and less than 21 million consoles and it still sells far more than PS3
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Or instead of looking for examples on this week or that, you could have a look at the tie ratio and see that it's about the same of the PS3.
Slightly lower, actually, by an increasing amount - notwithstanding the fact that 0.8 out of 6.22 of the Wii's tie ratio is due to the bundling of Wii Sports.
And you should decide which point are you trying to push: that many Wii games are system sellers or that the Wii sells a lot of software? Because they're very different arguments, and the data you're pointing to proves neither.
| trestres said: @Avinash: That doesnt prove anything at all. http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39355&console=&maker=&boxartz=1# 360 had 11.7 million consoles out the week of September 29th 2007, it sold 4.5 million units of SW that week, over 1.5 million more than what the Wii sold on April 12th 2008, and yet having less than half the install base. |
I think you misread Trestres, Wii had 12.1 million install base, 360 had 11.7 million install base, so their install bases were rather equal and yeah 360 sold more software and more hardware that week because of Halo 3, but like i've been pointint out, Halo 3 didn't generate momentum, its very frontloaded, so when its sales dropped off so did the 360's hardware and software sales
Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)
@ Avinash.
I dont need to reply, really. The other posts after mine have said practically exactly what i would say.
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| kirby007 said: wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii is doing fine |
Even a complete fanboy like myself knows that's not true.
The question is how will it be doing after Nintendo have released Wii Fit+ and NSMB.
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No I didn't misread anything. I was comparing the Halo launch week to the Mario Kart launch week you brought up. Wii's install base was double the 360 one comparing those 2 weeks, and yet the 360 outsold it in SW by more than 1.5 million units.
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WereKitten said:
Or instead of looking for examples on this week or that, you could have a look at the tie ratio and see that it's about the same of the PS3. Slightly lower, actually, by an increasing amount - notwithstanding the fact that 0.8 out of 6.22 of the Wii's tie ratio is due to the bundling of Wii Sports. And you should decide which point are you trying to push: that many Wii games are system sellers or that the Wii sells a lot of software? Because they're very different arguments, and the data you're pointing to proves neither. |
Actually you're wrong on multiple points first off saying that the Wii's software is boosted by Wii sports forgets that people buy the Wii for Wii sports so in fact it supports my point that its software that sells the system and builds momentum, its not that Wii sports is boosted by being bundles with the wii its that the Wii is boosted by Wii sports. Also saying that Wii doesn't have a lot of system sellers or alot of software being sold is false because Wii is the only console to have 20 million plus selling games this gen, even 360 has only one game over 10 million, Wii has 4 games over 10 million, 3 over 20 million, even PS2 didn't have a game over 20 million, and Wii is outpacing the PS2 in sales at the moment and will likely have a few more 10 to 20 plus million sellers before the gen is over before the gen is over, and as I have shown, even on weeks where Wii has had less consoles than the PS3 out it has sold more software, the reason for Wii having a smaller tie ratio is the weeks where Wii has sold a lot of consoles like during the holidays, where it routinely sells around a million plus, when its tie ratio drops off even though it still moves a ton of software, just not as much proportionately.
Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)