Onyxmeth said:
Sqrl said:
I'm not sure what you want me to face....I wasn't claiming that the Vikings were way ahead of every team in the league...I never even discussed teams outside the division in fact. I pointed to the fact that they dominated the GB O-line and that it was in large part due to how bad they are....so when you say "Face it, the Vikes are good, but that GB O-line is also that bad." you might as well say "Yeah I agree with everything you just said.". As for 8 sacks in the previous 3 games...yeah that was good enough to put the Vikings at ~4th in the league going into week 4...so they are a good pass rushing team..I don't know what you were trying to say there because you really haven't seemed to disagree with me on the sacks issue but in fact seem to be agreeing with me...only you're downplaying MIN significantly.
As for your second point, I'm not defending the Vikes.....because I wasn't really even focusing on them at all until you made it about them. I posted an article about how the Vikes dominated the Pack and you replied to it by talking about the Bears (a point I never actually contended) and saying that the Pack was struggling...which is actually the point I was making. You seemed to have thought I was overselling the Vikings but I was really never focused my analysis on MIN, and instead focused on GB so I'm not sure how you got that impression.
As for your final paragraph....I get the impression you're trying to downplay MIN far more than I am trying to play them up. If its rankings you're interested in I can just point to the power-rankings where fans and experts alike are placing them 4th or 5th in the league. The bears meanwhile are ~10th on those rankings and GB is down in the late teens. So yeah I do think MIN is the best team in the NFC North right now...but I don't know how you got the impression I was declaring them the best team in the league...I never even alluded to it.
You've read way into what I've posted so I'll just be blunt. Yes GB has serious problems and that is the exact reason I said they got dominated physically by MIN...I made the point repeatedly and always with respect to the GB matchup specifically. I do think MIN ranks in the top tier of teams this year and I think the 4th or 5th ranking is about spot on right now. If you want to address something I've said other than that please quote it because I feel like I'm being asked to defend things I never said (you do know that was an article I posted and not my own words right?).
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A lot of my comments stem from the article you posted which downplayed anything the Bears have accomplished by saying they're playing "decently" and utilizing every buzz word they could to exemplify how big a deal the dismantling of the Packers was. It wasn't a big deal because the Packers are not a good team. They are middle rung and will be lucky to finish 8-8 for the season unless they plug the O-line quick. The article seems like there was some question going in whether the Vikings could beat the Packs. In reality, they were a much better team coming into the game, and they left the game still the much better team. Really though, the thing that bothered me the most was the tagline "Minnesota is the best team in the NFC North, and right now it’s not close".
If you're going to post up an opinion piece, it's going to get scrutinized and you may get scrutinized for the perceived notion that you might agree with it. If you don't then ok, but make that very clear in your comments that you don't agree with a lot of the article, because you're the one that decided to post it up in the first place.
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I think I made it very clear I wasn't endorsing the bit about the Bears when I stated I agreed as far as the Packers were concerned:
"After having watched the game I really have to agree with this as far as the Packers are concerned (and not just because I'm a Vikings fan)."
Not sure what else I was supposed to add short of flashing lights and big red letters, but oh well, we seem to have it straight now.
With that said I'm curious where you would put the NFC North right now in terms of league wide power rankings? I only ask because while it seems we agree the Vikings are around 4-5th on the power rankings(yes/no?), you seem a bit hard on GB and a bit high on the Bears (imo) based on your comments. It's of course hard to gauge based on a few comments though, which is why I wondered where you would rank them in the league.
