By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - PC - Microsoft training BestBuy employees on Linux, lol

Xoj on 10 September 2009
Kasz216 said:
Xoj said:

100% of mass storage mp3 players work on linux.
and ipods do too and they require a drivers.

also music players like amarok, banshee support playforsure, mass storage and ipods.

No... they don't.  They haven't gotten work arounds for all of them yet... and that's also kind of the point.

 

You need workarounds... rather then it just being compatable as soon as you have a computer.  If you have a Sony MP3 player for example you need to find an obscure java program to bypass it's windows programs.


Flash Media players (still exist) in general are really sketchy on linux with plenty not working and others not exactly having equal functionality as the ones on Windows. (Like the aforementioend Sony models.)

It's gettin better but isn't 100% by anymeans.

wrong.

sony walkmans have been mass storage devices years ago.

almost all mass storage, MPT, Playforsure, and ipod work on linux. with no driver install.

even if some do, they also need install on windows, while the driver is available it's as easy as installing a .deb, .rpm 



Around the Network
Kasz216 on 11 September 2009
Xoj said:
Kasz216 said:
Xoj said:

100% of mass storage mp3 players work on linux.
and ipods do too and they require a drivers.

also music players like amarok, banshee support playforsure, mass storage and ipods.

No... they don't.  They haven't gotten work arounds for all of them yet... and that's also kind of the point.

 

You need workarounds... rather then it just being compatable as soon as you have a computer.  If you have a Sony MP3 player for example you need to find an obscure java program to bypass it's windows programs.


Flash Media players (still exist) in general are really sketchy on linux with plenty not working and others not exactly having equal functionality as the ones on Windows. (Like the aforementioend Sony models.)

It's gettin better but isn't 100% by anymeans.

wrong.

sony walkmans have been mass storage devices years ago.

almost all mass storage, MPT, Playforsure, and ipod work on linux. with no driver install.

even if some do, they also need install on windows, while the driver is available it's as easy as installing a .deb, .rpm 

Except there are tons that still don't.  Including earlier Sony Walkmans as  you've pointed out... well and your wrong...

There are still plenty of MP3 players that don't work on Linux or if they do have compatability issues.



Senlis on 11 September 2009
twesterm said:

You know what's funny about this is that the same people that are criticizing MS for these kind of things are probably the same people that applaud and love Apple for the I'm a Mac and I'm a PC commercials for being clever.

Mac commercials bash on microsoft by pointing out the negatives of microsoft.  What they say are true.

I can point out 3 things on the slideshow that is blatantly false:

1) Where it says "The games you want (World of Warcraft)"; it states "no".  Windows games will work on Linux with tweaking.  No matter how much of a pain that is, you can still get them to work.

2) Where it says "Authorized support"; it states "no".  There are distributions of Linux with technical support, as stated earlier.

3) It says Linux is not safer than Windows.  Right now, Linux is safer than Windows.  It doesn't matter whether Linux is more secure or less exploited, right now it is more secure.




 

justinian on 11 September 2009
twesterm said:
alephnull said:
twesterm said:

Again, you are not reading what they are writing.  It's like some people are just so eager to hate anything Microsoft/Windows because it's cool that they just don't pay attention.

They are not saying that no software exists for iPod support, they are saying that there is more software for iPod support on Windows. That is what they are saying.

As for WoW, go ahead and link to the tutorial that you wrote. The fact you had to write a tutorial on how to install a program tells me that I'm right-- installing WoW isn't intuitive.

That is what they mean on the games point-- you don't just insert the disc and press go.

And am I supposed to believe that because your one set of drivers works for your Ubuntu setup works flawlessly and your one set of drivers on Windows doesn't means that is the case for everybody?

I forgot that your one example is enough of a random sampling to constitute everybody.

Unconditional Microsoft love seems as much a vice as unconditional Microsoft hate. It would be one thing to chalk this up to marketing propoganda as usual, but that's not what you are doing.

Please explain to me the way in which linux's mp3 support is limited.

Actually, I haven't shown any MS love in any of my posts, I'm just pointing out how either the OP (and I assume you agree with it since you just blindly copied and pasted and then didn't say anything else) doesn't understand what is written or didn't read was is written.

?????

Sorry, maybe I am thinking of someone else. Also a x360 type sig must point to some love...or at the very least..some kind of liking.

Everyone should make their own minds up on what OS they want to use or suits them and leave it at that.

MS has a huge market share so choosing Windows like pretty much everyone else can guarantee you compatibilty with damn near every peripheral and device out there.

If you like linux - and can get it to work and do what you want it to do then fine. Use linux.

I use both along with Mac OS X. I don't preach what others should use. Remember what's good for the goose and all that.

 



Jereel Hunter on 14 September 2009
Senlis said:
twesterm said:

You know what's funny about this is that the same people that are criticizing MS for these kind of things are probably the same people that applaud and love Apple for the I'm a Mac and I'm a PC commercials for being clever.

Mac commercials bash on microsoft by pointing out the negatives of microsoft.  What they say are true.

I can point out 3 things on the slideshow that is blatantly false:

1) Where it says "The games you want (World of Warcraft)"; it states "no".  Windows games will work on Linux with tweaking.  No matter how much of a pain that is, you can still get them to work.

2) Where it says "Authorized support"; it states "no".  There are distributions of Linux with technical support, as stated earlier.

3) It says Linux is not safer than Windows.  Right now, Linux is safer than Windows.  It doesn't matter whether Linux is more secure or less exploited, right now it is more secure.

If you use the same criteria, then much of what Mac commercials say aren't true either. Nearly all of the downsides mentioned in Mac commercials are primarily experienced by inexperienced users. If you aren't going to sketchy sites and installing sktechy stuff, all of the claims of constant crashes/reboots/viruses aren't true. But both of these sets of adds target people that don't know anything. If you surf the internet like a moron, you'll get viruses and an unstable computer using Windows.. If you're new to Linux, your windows games won't work.



Around the Network
Senlis on 14 September 2009
Jereel Hunter said:
Senlis said:
twesterm said:

You know what's funny about this is that the same people that are criticizing MS for these kind of things are probably the same people that applaud and love Apple for the I'm a Mac and I'm a PC commercials for being clever.

Mac commercials bash on microsoft by pointing out the negatives of microsoft.  What they say are true.

I can point out 3 things on the slideshow that is blatantly false:

1) Where it says "The games you want (World of Warcraft)"; it states "no".  Windows games will work on Linux with tweaking.  No matter how much of a pain that is, you can still get them to work.

2) Where it says "Authorized support"; it states "no".  There are distributions of Linux with technical support, as stated earlier.

3) It says Linux is not safer than Windows.  Right now, Linux is safer than Windows.  It doesn't matter whether Linux is more secure or less exploited, right now it is more secure.

If you use the same criteria, then much of what Mac commercials say aren't true either. Nearly all of the downsides mentioned in Mac commercials are primarily experienced by inexperienced users. If you aren't going to sketchy sites and installing sktechy stuff, all of the claims of constant crashes/reboots/viruses aren't true. But both of these sets of adds target people that don't know anything. If you surf the internet like a moron, you'll get viruses and an unstable computer using Windows.. If you're new to Linux, your windows games won't work.

Good point.

However, even experienced users are risking infection when they browse the web on Windows.




 

heruamon on 16 September 2009
ruimartiniman said:

Everybody uses Windows, why do MS does stuff like this? It´s a very low attitude from MS.

Netbooks...



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder