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sc94597 on 01 September 2009
Carl2291 said:
Dazkarieh said:
I think DSi is a new generation. The same way PS2+Eyetoy was a new gen. And a PS2 with microphone is a new gen. And Wii with balance board is another different gen. And the Wii with WM+. So on so on.

Every single sh*t that comes out that produces exclusive games means a new gen.

Eyetoy could be used on every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Microphone could be use don every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Balance board can be used on every Wii. Same gen as Wii.

Now, Monster Finder and System Flaw cant be played on every DS... What does this mean?

 

Final Fantasy XI can't be played on every PS2. Is the slim a different console from the Phat?



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naznatips on 01 September 2009

The N64 expansion pack is a pretty good example. Not all N64 games were playable on old N64s unless you upgraded them.

There really needs to be a certain size to the change. No one was calling the Gameboy Color a part of the 7th (PS2 and Gamecube) generation. That was the gameboy advance.

Again, having exclusive games really isn't enough. The Go as well isn't playable with all PSP 3000 games.



Dazkarieh on 01 September 2009
Carl2291 said:

Now, Monster Finder and System Flaw cant be played on every DS... What does this mean?

 

That it is a new gen. That's what I said!

Ok.. I'll quit the crap.You're missing the point: I bought a PS2, I want to play every single game that came out for the system. And I couldn't without spending money. Example: FFXI, Singstar, so on.

What if Nintendo releases a DS add-on (with a cam) that allows you to play these games? Then it isn't a new gen? Or the PSP stands alone on the 7th gen and DS/DSL/DSi are eight?



     

 

sc94597 on 01 September 2009
Dazkarieh said:
Carl2291 said:

Now, Monster Finder and System Flaw cant be played on every DS... What does this mean?

 

That it is a new gen. That's what I said!

Ok.. I'll quit the crap.You're missing the point: I bought a PS2, I want to play every single game that came out for the system. And I couldn't without spending money. Example: FFXI, Singstar, so on.

What if Nintendo releases a DS add-on (with a cam) that allows you to play this games? Then it isn't a new gen? Or the PSP stands alone on the 7th gen and DS/DSL/DSi are eight?

Actually what makes Final Fantasy XI a even more valid point is that you require the Hard Drive, something you can't use on a PS2 slim.



Carl on 01 September 2009
sc94597 said:
Carl2291 said:
Dazkarieh said:
I think DSi is a new generation. The same way PS2+Eyetoy was a new gen. And a PS2 with microphone is a new gen. And Wii with balance board is another different gen. And the Wii with WM+. So on so on.

Every single sh*t that comes out that produces exclusive games means a new gen.

Eyetoy could be used on every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Microphone could be use don every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Balance board can be used on every Wii. Same gen as Wii.

Now, Monster Finder and System Flaw cant be played on every DS... What does this mean?

 

Final Fantasy XI can't be played on every PS2. Is the slim a different console from the Phat?

How cant it?



                            

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sc94597 on 01 September 2009
Carl2291 said:
sc94597 said:
Carl2291 said:
Dazkarieh said:
I think DSi is a new generation. The same way PS2+Eyetoy was a new gen. And a PS2 with microphone is a new gen. And Wii with balance board is another different gen. And the Wii with WM+. So on so on.

Every single sh*t that comes out that produces exclusive games means a new gen.

Eyetoy could be used on every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Microphone could be use don every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Balance board can be used on every Wii. Same gen as Wii.

Now, Monster Finder and System Flaw cant be played on every DS... What does this mean?

 

Final Fantasy XI can't be played on every PS2. Is the slim a different console from the Phat?

How cant it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_Expansion_Bay

As of December 2004, it is widely believed that Sony is no longer interested in supporting the hard drive. The new slimline model of PlayStation 2, which replaced the older, larger model in November 2004, is not capable of using the hard drive and while Sony has stated they are investigating alternatives, it is thought that none will be forthcoming due to the relatively late date in the product's lifecycle. The absence of support for the HDD in the slimline PS2 also means that Final Fantasy XI can only be played on older PlayStation 2s. Sony's public response at the time of the introduction of the slimline PS2 (in mid-2004) was that "the more hardcore [HDD-interested] gamers...already have their PlayStation 2 units," according to a company statement.

I don't even think there is even a homebrew way of doing it.



Dazkarieh on 01 September 2009
sc94597 said:
Dazkarieh said:
Carl2291 said:

Now, Monster Finder and System Flaw cant be played on every DS... What does this mean?

 

That it is a new gen. That's what I said!

Ok.. I'll quit the crap.You're missing the point: I bought a PS2, I want to play every single game that came out for the system. And I couldn't without spending money. Example: FFXI, Singstar, so on.

What if Nintendo releases a DS add-on (with a cam) that allows you to play this games? Then it isn't a new gen? Or the PSP stands alone on the 7th gen and DS/DSL/DSi are eight?

Actually what makes Final Fantasy XI a even more valid point is that you require the Hard Drive, something you can't use on a PS2 slim.

The same way that although I don't agree with Carl, he is using the wrong argument to his wrong idea. But I'll help: Guitar Hero: On Tour ;)

You could've started this thread erlier :)



     

 

Carl on 01 September 2009
sc94597 said:
Carl2291 said:
sc94597 said:
Carl2291 said:
Dazkarieh said:
I think DSi is a new generation. The same way PS2+Eyetoy was a new gen. And a PS2 with microphone is a new gen. And Wii with balance board is another different gen. And the Wii with WM+. So on so on.

Every single sh*t that comes out that produces exclusive games means a new gen.

Eyetoy could be used on every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Microphone could be use don every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Balance board can be used on every Wii. Same gen as Wii.

Now, Monster Finder and System Flaw cant be played on every DS... What does this mean?

 

Final Fantasy XI can't be played on every PS2. Is the slim a different console from the Phat?

How cant it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_Expansion_Bay

As of December 2004, it is widely believed that Sony is no longer interested in supporting the hard drive. The new slimline model of PlayStation 2, which replaced the older, larger model in November 2004, is not capable of using the hard drive and while Sony has stated they are investigating alternatives, it is thought that none will be forthcoming due to the relatively late date in the product's lifecycle. The absence of support for the HDD in the slimline PS2 also means that Final Fantasy XI can only be played on older PlayStation 2s. Sony's public response at the time of the introduction of the slimline PS2 (in mid-2004) was that "the more hardcore [HDD-interested] gamers...already have their PlayStation 2 units," according to a company statement.

I don't even think there is even a homebrew way of doing it.

Never knew that, you learn something new every day



                            

Dazkarieh on 01 September 2009
Carl2291 said:
sc94597 said:
Carl2291 said:
sc94597 said:
Carl2291 said:
Dazkarieh said:
I think DSi is a new generation. The same way PS2+Eyetoy was a new gen. And a PS2 with microphone is a new gen. And Wii with balance board is another different gen. And the Wii with WM+. So on so on.

Every single sh*t that comes out that produces exclusive games means a new gen.

Eyetoy could be used on every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Microphone could be use don every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Balance board can be used on every Wii. Same gen as Wii.

Now, Monster Finder and System Flaw cant be played on every DS... What does this mean?

 

Final Fantasy XI can't be played on every PS2. Is the slim a different console from the Phat?

How cant it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_Expansion_Bay

As of December 2004, it is widely believed that Sony is no longer interested in supporting the hard drive. The new slimline model of PlayStation 2, which replaced the older, larger model in November 2004, is not capable of using the hard drive and while Sony has stated they are investigating alternatives, it is thought that none will be forthcoming due to the relatively late date in the product's lifecycle. The absence of support for the HDD in the slimline PS2 also means that Final Fantasy XI can only be played on older PlayStation 2s. Sony's public response at the time of the introduction of the slimline PS2 (in mid-2004) was that "the more hardcore [HDD-interested] gamers...already have their PlayStation 2 units," according to a company statement.

I don't even think there is even a homebrew way of doing it.

Never knew that, you learn something new every day

So... what are your conclusions then?



     

 

Carl on 01 September 2009
Dazkarieh said:
Carl2291 said:
sc94597 said:
Carl2291 said:
sc94597 said:
Carl2291 said:
Dazkarieh said:
I think DSi is a new generation. The same way PS2+Eyetoy was a new gen. And a PS2 with microphone is a new gen. And Wii with balance board is another different gen. And the Wii with WM+. So on so on.

Every single sh*t that comes out that produces exclusive games means a new gen.

Eyetoy could be used on every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Microphone could be use don every PS2. Same gen as PS2.

Balance board can be used on every Wii. Same gen as Wii.

Now, Monster Finder and System Flaw cant be played on every DS... What does this mean?

 

Final Fantasy XI can't be played on every PS2. Is the slim a different console from the Phat?

How cant it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_Expansion_Bay

As of December 2004, it is widely believed that Sony is no longer interested in supporting the hard drive. The new slimline model of PlayStation 2, which replaced the older, larger model in November 2004, is not capable of using the hard drive and while Sony has stated they are investigating alternatives, it is thought that none will be forthcoming due to the relatively late date in the product's lifecycle. The absence of support for the HDD in the slimline PS2 also means that Final Fantasy XI can only be played on older PlayStation 2s. Sony's public response at the time of the introduction of the slimline PS2 (in mid-2004) was that "the more hardcore [HDD-interested] gamers...already have their PlayStation 2 units," according to a company statement.

I don't even think there is even a homebrew way of doing it.

Never knew that, you learn something new every day

So... what are your conclusions then?

My conclusions are that DSi should still be counted seperately from DS, but in the same gen. As i said earlier.

If a console/handheld has its own exclusives... for me it is a seperate platform altogether.