Lord Flashheart said: *cough*FFXI*cough* Now who talking bullshit. I'm not comparing the games but the business practice. If charging to play online is bad then why is it ok to keep charging monthly to play online with no offline? You can try and justify it but the fact is you're still being charged just for online multiplayer and there are free alternatives out there. This is basically the biggest argument AGAINST live. Ones ok and ones not? If its ok due to the community then the community on live is superior to PSN so that should be justification enough right? Ah but now its "types" of games not the actual games themselves.

Yes, FFXI, I'm aware. And people have to pay monthly for that anyhow to SOE, they didn't play the game for free.

Also you are right, why bother with Halo when I can play UT for free on my PC? Or Quake, HL, CS, and I can keep on listing.

 

Also the monthly ubscription is ok because the game actually grows, meanwhile LIVE is a service, not a game. I don't remember spending 3 months to clear new content that came out for LIVE like people do when new content comes out for WoW.

And is is any game that does not sport thousands of people being simultaneously online. Any other game is free, unless it's on live. Where you have to pay extra just to play online no matter what the game is.

Also, since I already bet my left nut, I'll bet my right that when MMOs somehow do start coming out for the Xbox, they will cost an additional cost to play online, or they will be like Guild Wars (Which is not truly an MMO).

toadslayer72 said: It's obviously worth it for millions of people. I'd happily pay 3x as much as I do now and I have 2 kids with their own accounts as well. I really don't see why it's such a sore spot for people that don't even use the shit. It's like these dudes are willing to fight to prove how much it's not worth it. WTF is that shit?

This sums it up perfectly.
Nothing needs to be said

Wow this thread is still going on?

yes i deffinetely think so too but i too bad i dont have an xbox

Adjudicator said: Wow this thread is still going on?

Mostly thanks to Flashheart and JEDE's little argument.

Seriously, guys, I know the article sucks, but that's no reason to derail the thread like this. If you must derail a thread, do it with funny pictures and maybe Hitler jokes.

Kantor said: Adjudicator said: Wow this thread is still going on? Mostly thanks to Flashheart and JEDE's little argument. Seriously, guys, I know the article sucks, but that's no reason to derail the thread like this. If you must derail a thread, do it with funny pictures and maybe Hitler jokes.

I just want the guy to admit he talked out of his ass. It all started because he said I was wrong... but then goes on and says the same exact thing I did. Then claims that if it were a Ps3 fan I would take their word as gospel. Then he claims I spread FUD about the 360 and can only come up with one questionable quote which is the Forza 3 one. Then claims I should have brought GT5 in the thread if I think it doesn't have realistic damge too.

All while not being able to support his claims. He wasn't able to provide a link where I used speculation as fact. He wasn't able to provide a link of FUD. He was just able to provide links with people whining about my posts. Like slowmo. He complained that everyone was whining and immature then I brought up the fact that making babie noises wasnt mature... Slowmos response "Your a ps3 fanboy" and this somehow is proof I spread 360 FUD.

JEDE3 said: Kantor said: Adjudicator said: Wow this thread is still going on? Mostly thanks to Flashheart and JEDE's little argument. Seriously, guys, I know the article sucks, but that's no reason to derail the thread like this. If you must derail a thread, do it with funny pictures and maybe Hitler jokes. I just want the guy to admit he talked out of his ass. It all started because he said I was wrong... but then goes on and says the same exact thing I did. Then claims that if it were a Ps3 fan I would take their word as gospel. Then he claims I spread FUD about the 360 and can only come up with one questionable quote which is the Forza 3 one. Then claims I should have brought GT5 in the thread if I think it doesn't have realistic damge too. All while not being able to support his claims. He wasn't able to provide a link where I used speculation as fact. He wasn't able to provide a link of FUD. He was just able to provide links with people whining about my posts. Like slowmo. He complained that everyone was whining and immature then I brought up the fact that making babie noises wasnt mature... Slowmos response "Your a ps3 fanboy" and this somehow is proof I spread 360 FUD.

but you do >_>

CodeJerry said: Simply $59.99 a year for the life of your console which should be 10 years will end up costing you $599 not to mention all the map packs that you are forced to download or you won't be able to play online if you don't get them. Xbox live is not worth the money. It would be worth the money if they included all map packs free like on a PC.

Force to download MapPacks?...where did you get that Spin from....it's quite new...And you won't be able to play online if you don't...I don't have any Hola 3 Map packs...and I get a match every time...and the difference betewwen PC and Console's are that PC developers don't have a way to Steam content to people....

yo_john117 said: JEDE3 said: Kantor said: Adjudicator said: Wow this thread is still going on? Mostly thanks to Flashheart and JEDE's little argument. Seriously, guys, I know the article sucks, but that's no reason to derail the thread like this. If you must derail a thread, do it with funny pictures and maybe Hitler jokes. I just want the guy to admit he talked out of his ass. It all started because he said I was wrong... but then goes on and says the same exact thing I did. Then claims that if it were a Ps3 fan I would take their word as gospel. Then he claims I spread FUD about the 360 and can only come up with one questionable quote which is the Forza 3 one. Then claims I should have brought GT5 in the thread if I think it doesn't have realistic damge too. All while not being able to support his claims. He wasn't able to provide a link where I used speculation as fact. He wasn't able to provide a link of FUD. He was just able to provide links with people whining about my posts. Like slowmo. He complained that everyone was whining and immature then I brought up the fact that making babie noises wasnt mature... Slowmos response "Your a ps3 fanboy" and this somehow is proof I spread 360 FUD. but you do >_>

My post history contradicts your statement. And you were even the one to apologize after you realized you were quick to jump to conclusions. For that I commend you.