| dtewi said: This is really confusing. The only way I'll know is if Craan investigates me. |
Nnngh
There's a reason I know there's an arsonist
Khuutra said:
Nnngh There's a reason I know there's an arsonist |
I said I will know. I can't be certain about your role.
You did say though that the arsonist failed earlier. I am rather certain that you are good now.
Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita
Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte
Sugu yoko de waratteita
Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo
I will never leave you
I am a cop I don't know if I'm insane or not but I swear I am a cop, I investigated Soleron and it indicated he was a mafia there is a 50/50 chance he is a mafia based on that I feel that and I feel pretty strongly Khuutra is a mafia today as his plan hinges on him being town and not mafia, I agree with WoW we lynch Soleron today and I investigate Khuutra tonight. If Soleron is mafia I'm not insane and khuutra almost certanly will be giving us someone to lynch tommorow.
VOTE SOLERON
| Khuutra said:
@WoW: Say Khuutra and Soleron are both mafia. Khuutra convinces everyone that he's a townsfolk and then prevents Soleron from being lynched while also convincing Craan to investigate him. If Khuutra comes back as Mafia (and he would) then Khuutra concludes that Craan is insane and that both he and Soleron are innocent.
You know, I think I already noted something like that: I am a Townie, 100% positive of my own role. Craan, I want you to scan me tonight. If I come back Mafia, then you're insane, and Soleron is not necessarily Mafia - this doesn't clear him, it just means that you might see everyone as being Mafia, instead of seeing them in reverse roles.
Craan seeing me as Mafia wouldn't be proof of anything except for his insanity - there's more than one sort. |
We don't know your identity for certain. We only know the identities of the dead and the ones the cop has investigated. You know this. Roleclaiming townsfolk doesn't prove anything.
However, lynching Soleron gives us the best chance to get a Mafia and find out if Craan's results are useful. We can find out that Craan is accurate and get rid of a mafia member with one move (67% chance of getting one between Soleron and Craan). That's win/win to me.
Yet... you're doing everything you can to discredit him and insult me.
dtewi said:
I said I will know. I can't be certain about your role. You did say though that the arsonist failed earlier. I am rather certain that you are good now. |
If you're certain I'm good, then Craan investigating you wouldn't say anything - unless you're the arsonist.
Or a Mafia, I suppose, and a few of you are in cahoots...
| Words Of Wisdom said: We don't know your identity for certain. We only know the identities of the dead and the ones the cop has investigated. You know this. Roleclaiming townsfolk doesn't prove anything. However, lynching Soleron gives us the best chance to get a Mafia and find out if Craan's results are useful. We can find out that Craan is accurate and get rid of a mafia member with one move (67% chance of getting one between Soleron and Craan). That's win/win to me. Yet... you're doing everything you can to discredit him and insult me. |
Those chances are not as good when you consider the possibility that Craan is insane, which is 50% - in which case he could either be reading Soleron backwards or be reading everyone as Mafia, in which case Soleron may not be Mafia regardless. The chances are lower than fifty percent assuming that all possibilities have equal likelihoods (they don't).
And yes, I suppose that the only way to prove my role would be to see what the arsonist does, and whether or not he succeeds in his aim tonight.
But the arsonist can be an interesting ally of the town when the town is close to losing - since he loses with town, and all. Whoever he is, I'm just goign to have to hope he's gunning for Mafia tonight.
| Khuutra said:
And yes, I suppose that the only way to prove my role would be to see what the arsonist does, and whether or not he succeeds in his aim tonight. But the arsonist can be an interesting ally of the town when the town is close to losing - since he loses with town, and all. Whoever he is, I'm just goign to have to hope he's gunning for Mafia tonight. |
Okay, now I know something is up with you. Up until now you've just been attacking my logic, but now you're flat-out lying.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Arsonist
Arsonist is "Third Party" and "Anti Town" meaning the Arsonist wins when everyone else is dead.
Are you the arsonist Khuutra?
Words Of Wisdom said:
Okay, now I know something is up with you. Up until now you've just been attacking my logic, but now you're flat-out lying. http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Arsonist Arsonist is "Third Party" and "Anti Town" meaning the Arsonist wins when everyone else is dead. Are you the arsonist Khuutra? |
The Arsonist loses when the town loses to the Mafia. If the Mafia wins, he can't win. He'll want to keep the game in balance until all of the Mafia is gone.
I'm not. I'm the Firefighter.
| Khuutra said:
The Arsonist loses when the town loses to the Mafia. If the Mafia wins, he can't win. He'll want to keep the game in balance until all of the Mafia is gone. I'm not. I'm the Firefighter. |
Fire Fighter shows up as Pro-Town.
Arsonist shows up as Anti-Town when scanned.
We'll find out on Day 3 what you really are then.
Words Of Wisdom said:
Fire Fighter shows up as Pro-Town. Arsonist shows up as Anti-Town when scanned. We'll find out on Day 3 what you really are then. |
Soleron scanned as "Mafia", not Anti-Town.
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