Why WoW?

Ahh! We lost the cop already!? Talk about bad luck!

Do we know if there are two cops? I can't imagine that claiming to be a cop after the other one was killed would be smart for a mafia to do... I think Khuutra has a good plan though.

I think I'm gonna wait for more people to respond before I vote since we really don't want to lose any more townspeople.

Khuutra said: In fact, you know what We know Gnizmo was a cop. He had the badge in narrative and everything. It's entirely possible that Craan is also a cop. The problem is that if Craan is also a cop, then there's a 50/50 chance that he's insane - if he's sane, then Gnizmo was the insane one. We're not going to hang Soleron today. That is not on the agenda. I am a Townie, 100% positive of my own role. Craan, I want you to scan me tonight. If I come back Mafia, then you're insane, and Soleron is not necessarily Mafia - this doesn't clear him, it just means that you might see everyone as being Mafia, instead of seeing them in reverse roles. I'm not sure where we'll go from there. If I come back Townie, then we can lynch the Hell out of Soleron. FoS: WoW Even if Soleron is Mafia and you put him up on the chopping block, you may just be serving the purpose of inoculating yourself against suspicion. No sir. If you're Mafia and so is he, then the whole point of putting him up is to cement yourself as a Townie. Your failure in logic is worrisome. I'm almost - almost - ready to vote.

Yeesh, was it a good idea to state your role to Craan? He can just lie.

 

Query: Does my investigation die with me, or would the results be revealable?

Gnizmo said: Query: Does my investigation die with me, or would the results be revealable?

I think it has to die since whatever you say will be completely true.

dtewi said: Khuutra said: In fact, you know what We know Gnizmo was a cop. He had the badge in narrative and everything. It's entirely possible that Craan is also a cop. The problem is that if Craan is also a cop, then there's a 50/50 chance that he's insane - if he's sane, then Gnizmo was the insane one. We're not going to hang Soleron today. That is not on the agenda. I am a Townie, 100% positive of my own role. Craan, I want you to scan me tonight. If I come back Mafia, then you're insane, and Soleron is not necessarily Mafia - this doesn't clear him, it just means that you might see everyone as being Mafia, instead of seeing them in reverse roles. I'm not sure where we'll go from there. If I come back Townie, then we can lynch the Hell out of Soleron. FoS: WoW Even if Soleron is Mafia and you put him up on the chopping block, you may just be serving the purpose of inoculating yourself against suspicion. No sir. If you're Mafia and so is he, then the whole point of putting him up is to cement yourself as a Townie. Your failure in logic is worrisome. I'm almost - almost - ready to vote. Yeesh, was it a good idea to state your role to Craan? He can just lie.

If he's Mafia then he's already lying.

dtewi said: Khuutra said: We're not going to hang Soleron today. That is not on the agenda. I am a Townie, 100% positive of my own role. Craan, I want you to scan me tonight. If I come back Mafia, then you're insane, and Soleron is not necessarily Mafia - this doesn't clear him, it just means that you might see everyone as being Mafia, instead of seeing them in reverse roles. I'm not sure where we'll go from there. If I come back Townie, then we can lynch the Hell out of Soleron. Yeesh, was it a good idea to state your role to Craan? He can just lie.

Okay, I have a theory.

Say Khuutra and Soleron are both mafia.  Khuutra convinces everyone that he's a townsfolk and then prevents Soleron from being lynched while also convincing Craan to investigate him.  If Khuutra comes back as Mafia (and he would) then Khuutra concludes that Craan is insane and that both he and Soleron are innocent.

So now Khuutra has convinced everyone that both he and Soleron are non-Mafia, neither of them are lynched, and we all die.

I propose that we lynch Soleron and have Craan investigate Khuutra.  If Craan is sane then we'll find out when we lynch Soleron.  Then we can judge from that how to view Khuutra's result.

Khuutra said: dtewi said: Khuutra said: In fact, you know what We know Gnizmo was a cop. He had the badge in narrative and everything. It's entirely possible that Craan is also a cop. The problem is that if Craan is also a cop, then there's a 50/50 chance that he's insane - if he's sane, then Gnizmo was the insane one. We're not going to hang Soleron today. That is not on the agenda. I am a Townie, 100% positive of my own role. Craan, I want you to scan me tonight. If I come back Mafia, then you're insane, and Soleron is not necessarily Mafia - this doesn't clear him, it just means that you might see everyone as being Mafia, instead of seeing them in reverse roles. I'm not sure where we'll go from there. If I come back Townie, then we can lynch the Hell out of Soleron. FoS: WoW Even if Soleron is Mafia and you put him up on the chopping block, you may just be serving the purpose of inoculating yourself against suspicion. No sir. If you're Mafia and so is he, then the whole point of putting him up is to cement yourself as a Townie. Your failure in logic is worrisome. I'm almost - almost - ready to vote. Yeesh, was it a good idea to state your role to Craan? He can just lie. If he's Mafia then he's already lying.

If you're Mafia, then you've created a strong case for yourself. However, that would mean you would be forcefully revealing yourself with Craan investigating you, or you're utterly confident that he isn't a cop. Or you know he's a mafia since you're mafia. But you seem to be against him.

I am 85% confident you're a townie.

Now, why WoW?

EDIT: Actually, I have pretty strong doubts about you. If you're mafia, then you will have created the perfect alibi.

@Gnizmo: The dead tell no tales, unfortunately. Which is a shame - you wouldn't even know if you were insane the whole time anyway.

@WoW:

You know, I think I already noted something like that: Craan seeing me as Mafia wouldn't be proof of anything except for his insanity - there's more than one sort.

Which, yes, assumes I am town, which I think I've dropped enough hints to suggest I am and the specific role I play. It is not a role which is easy to fake.

@dtewi: He's making too many easy mistakes in terms of logic for it to actually be a series of mistakes.

This is really confusing. The only way I'll know is if Craan investigates me.