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Absolutely love the incoherence in Wii naysayer arguments.

"The Wii only sells because it's cheap!"

Two years later, after numerous price drops and hardware revisions by the competition...

"The Wii is overpriced! Why would anyone buy that when they can have [other console] for $50 more/less!?!?!?!?!!"



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^^^ It is true, that the counterargument from years ago often becomes today's argument. Life is weird like that.



ClaudeLv250 said:
Absolutely love the incoherence in Wii naysayer arguments.

"The Wii only sells because it's cheap!"

Two years later, after numerous price drops and hardware revisions by the competition...

"The Wii is overpriced! Why would anyone buy that when they can have [other console] for $50 more/less!?!?!?!?!!"

It's actually pretty simple. For these people, the gaming world revolves around the PS3 and the 360.

So when the Wii is much cheaper than the PS3, its better sales are explained. When that's not the case, Wii sales must suffer otherwise their worldview gets turned upside down.

Some people just need a bit more time to realize the majority of the gaming public doesn't care about the HD platforms that much.

 



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

A person who wants wii sports, wii fit, and the like will continue to get a Wii no matter how cheap a 360 or PS3 is



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

But then to be honest, over the next weeks, the Wii WILL loose market share to the PS3. It is a given. In the long run though, all is open.



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Khuutra said:
puffy said:
reask said:
He has a point but I think the Wii has a different market.
Only time will tell really.
Nothing stopping Ninty dropping the price either if they feel they have to.

No.. just no..

Also @ Khuutra: You just passed 8000 posts, congrats!

I just passed eight thousand posts by arguing about steak.

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

I'll say the big 8k was me yelling at Starcraft in another topic. That's much better.

Weak sauce. It's not over 9000.



KylieDog said:
bardicverse said:

 I think that he forgot to factor in that the Wii has built in Wifi as well, and now with SD card streaming that replaces a need for a HD.

 

You don't really believe that, do you?

You don't really believe asking that kind of question will somehow prove his comment wrong, unless you provide some actual evidence to back it up, do you?



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

What a great way to not have to make an argument. Just act like the things you believe are obvious truths, and if you think otherwise "you don't really believe that, do you?!".



A game I'm developing with some friends:

www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

"Same principle applies. Answer is obvious to all and needs no explanation."

Wrong. Umbrellas have one function. HDD have many functions, so don't try that BS analogy. You have to prove that the benefits of an HDD are greater than just the flash memory and SD card streaming. And not just assume people will go for those features.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Ah, Pachter and his fratcore whining again.

When the Arcade dropped to sub-$200, it actually did gain a bit of marketshare at the Wii's expense: the catch is, it was less than 1%. A $300 PS3 might make gains in about that range, but it is unlikely that it will make any more than that, because price has frankly never been the issue.

The idea of the Wii being somehow "worth less" because of its techniology is BS, something only technophiles believe. The value of a console comes from the games it plays, and nothing more, and while neither the self-described "hardcore" (having long been converted to technophiles) nor the analysts who follow them understand this, the market does, and the market has spoken: Wii wins. This price drop will not change that.



Complexity is not depth. Machismo is not maturity. Obsession is not dedication. Tedium is not challenge. Support gaming: support the Wii.

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What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.