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As a transformers fan, I really enjoyed the first movie because I didn't judge the movie before I walked in. So I loved that movie.

I walked into this movie thinking it'd be much of the same, I walked out thinking it was crap. Unlike the first movie where they knew it was just a summer pop-corn flick, this movie tries to have some sort of epic story. Instead what they do is have an incoherent mess that takes a no. 2 on over 20 years of Transformer History.

If it was just Optimus Prime VS Megatron, that'd be fine, but the Fallen, really? Seriously, if you're going to make a movie about an obscure character that only a small part of the fanbase is going to know, you have to have it as close to the original as possible. The Fallen isn't some skinny skeletal being, he's meant to be massive and be overbearing on any regular sized transformer. He's also not Megatrons Leader. Megatron prides himself as being the leader of the decepticons, not some lacky to another (even against unicron in the original movie, megatron and eventually galvatron tried to maintain his place). The whole point is, you made megatron weak by making him a disciple, though his new body looked more organised then his last one (in terms of visual presentation)

I wouldn't have cared if it was just Megatron getting revenge and then the whole movie being a massive brawl, but it wasn't. It just felt like the writers tried to do so much without knowing the original material to begin with. Movie felt disjointed and to be honest, I didn't really care that optimus died, it was more like "geez, not again.... worst reference ever".

Also, this movie was supposed to be more character focused, but instead we get a close up into the minds of 2 of the worst movie characters ever (twins). I wanted to know more about ironhide, ratchet, arcee and even sideswipe (seriously, why have him there if he's only going to have 1 line of dialogue). The Sideswipe thing pissed me off, because he's such a great character and he's just reduced to background props in this movie.

Anyway, I'm glad Bay's sick of transformers now, I'm sick of Bay. Bring on somebody that knows that they won't win an oscar for this, and we'll have more of Transformers 1 (and I'll be happy) for the next movie.

On the positive side, the forest battle was epic. Sadly, it followed too much in line with the original movie, so I knew what was going to happen next... Also it didn't have the epic "wholely crap, Optimus just went to town on the entire decepticon army and saved everybody" feel that the classic movie had.



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You can defend the movie all you want by saying that it's not supposed to have much of a plot, and that it's just about robots fighting.

It still sucks.



 

 

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Dgc1808 said:
superchunk said:
F that the movie was awesome.

Its freakin TRANSFORMERS, not fucking some epic drama story movie.

Its supposed to be explosions, giant robot fighting, explosions, giant robot exploding, etc.

wtf did you expect? a serious monologue?

Did you ever see the cartoon?

How did you play with your toys? mine kick each others asses with horrible dialog.


I'm glad I spent $50 that day to watch it with my family, it was well spent and will definitely do it in a couple of years for part 3.

Only gripe I had is that the character of M.Fox could be cut out. She's only eye candy but does not help the story in any way shape or form, also, the reason for *why* only a prime could kill the fallen should have been explained a little better. i mean Optimus has no special telekinetic abilities so that was a little far fetched, but what scifi movie does not stretch realism.

This.

Seriously, people. 

I expect it to aim for the quality of a Raiders of the Lost Ark - plenty of action there, and better directed than Transformers as well, as well as a great script, great characters, etc.  Or a Jaws, or a Star Wars... well, you get the picture.

I didn't expect it to be a mix of short, sub-par comedy sketches coupled with poorly directed action sequences propped up by sheer scale, with zero attention to logic - I mean sure, it's just plastic toys put on the big screen, but if you're going to spend $200 million couldn't you take some effort with the script?).

In short, I'm not expecting There Will Be Blood, but I am expecting it to be of a certain quality as many other 'popcorn' movies have managed, including, ironically, the first Transformers movie.

 



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

The first one was nothing brilliant, but it wasn't bad. Pretty enjoyable, actually.

This one...they completely ruined a potentially awesome movie franchise. The jokes were completely unfunny, there was hardly any characterisation, the story was full of holes, and sure, robots beating each other up is fun, WHEN accompanied by a good movie. Like in the original. When half the movie is explosions and robot fighting with no attempt to justify it with anything resembling a plot, it just sucks.



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