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crash it's not realistic,  if u crash u die.

I have contributed alot to bringing home the conclusion that you are talking drivel. The most obvious difference between Grid and GT is that Grid handles nothing like real life cars, not even in the slightest slightest bit, Gran Turismo is the best (console game) in this area. In GT you have a much larger and more detailed car selection at your disposal, and every car feels realistically different, Grid does an awful job at this.

Next up the internal tuning in GT is far more detailed and realisitc than in Grid. Do you know what a damper is, what about spring compression? Next GT times and tracks are far more realistic, for example in GT5p the world record at Suzuka Circuit is only a tenth of a second faster than the real life record (both in Fer F1 2007). GT also has the best racing wheel support in the genre supporting all the fantastic wheels and using them wheel. Try playing Grid with a wheel, it's just hideously messed up.

Then you add in the 'casual' replay function in Grid making race changing mistakes all the less race changing. Also consider than GT has the most realistic cockpit views, Grid has poor cockpit views. Moving on the braking zones in Grid are pathetic, in a standard car you don't go from 150mph to 10mph in 0.5 seconds. GT also has a far more hardcore fanbase dedicated to setting time trial records through various circuits, Grid does not.

Biggest and most glaring reason is that Grid doesn't handle like real cars in any way, shape or form. Add in those other 50 reasons I've given you and take into account the 'casual' feel you get when playing Grid and you should understand where I'm coming from.

We are done with this half of my original question. All that is left is to clear up why GT and Forza are racing sims.

If what you say about sliding is true, then I have played the game wrong all the time. But I don't think that this is really the case, because from sliding around corners the car usually slowed down more than it would do when taking the corner in the way it's supposed to.

Regarding the super fast cars, didn't the Escudo in GT2 hit above 390 km/h on the Test Course? Then again, the GT franchise might have changed a whole lot since then and only F1 cars might be able to hit 350 km/h now.

EDIT: Just checked, an R10 is supposed to max out at around 335 km/h, so the cars really do perform significantly better in GRID than in real life. Point taken.

@leo-j: After playing GT5:P I would probably still think that GRID is the better racing game.

Wait a moment. You thought I was joking, but you take nordlead's comment serious?

Top Speed is not a F1 Cars strong point, they sacrifice topspeed for cornering speed (Downforce).

There are plently of Road Legal cars which are capable of going faster then a F1 Car but they would have no chance against one on a circuit.

Either one of the cars at the beginning of the second race could beat a F1 car on a long enough straight because they can travel anywhere from 30-40 mph faster.