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mtofu on 25 August 2009
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The Truth said:
RolStoppable said:
The Truth said:
I am actually shocked. :0

You have contributed very little with your posts in this thread. So now it's your turn.

Put up a good argument why Gran Turismo has always been labeled a racing sim, despite not having any damage model.

I have contributed alot to bringing home the conclusion that you are talking drivel. The most obvious difference between Grid and GT is that Grid handles nothing like real life cars, not even in the slightest slightest bit, Gran Turismo is the best (console game) in this area. In GT you have a much larger and more detailed car selection at your disposal, and every car feels realistically different, Grid does an awful job at this.

Next up the internal tuning in GT is far more detailed and realisitc than in Grid. Do you know what a damper is, what about spring compression? Next GT times and tracks are far more realistic, for example in GT5p the world record at Suzuka Circuit is only a tenth of a second faster than the real life record (both in Fer F1 2007). GT also has the best racing wheel support in the genre supporting all the fantastic wheels and using them wheel. Try playing Grid with a wheel, it's just hideously messed up.

Then you add in the 'casual' replay function in Grid making race changing mistakes all the less race changing. Also consider than GT has the most realistic cockpit views, Grid has poor cockpit views. Moving on the braking zones in Grid are pathetic, in a standard car you don't go from 150mph to 10mph in 0.5 seconds. GT also has a far more hardcore fanbase dedicated to setting time trial records through various circuits, Grid does not.

Biggest and most glaring reason is that Grid doesn't handle like real cars in any way, shape or form. Add in those other 50 reasons I've given you and take into account the 'casual' feel you get when playing Grid and you should understand where I'm coming from.

I haven't spent much time with either GT5:P or GRID, so take my comments with a grain of salt.

i find the time trial times being very close between real life and GT and the "feel" of each car being different are interesting and valid points.

larger car selection, realistic cockpit views and steering wheel peripheral support are not good arguments and doesn't make it more of a simulator than others in my opinion.