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CGI-Quality said:
In fact, I REALLY don't see how these were two of Sony's better non-owned developers. Sure Heavenly Sword is fantastic, as is Folklore. But these two developers are even that well known amongst the Sony community, so I don't get it.

And Sony owns all these company's IPs, they could just get one of their own studios, or other 2nd Party studios to take them over...

I'm sorry, but BS. Real Sony fans survived off of Heavenly Sword and Folklore for a solid year. Those games were and still are amazing, and two of my favorite PS3 exclusives.

Sure, those two might not be as important financially, as other Sony exclusives, but for guys like you and I, we really know that these are some of the better developers in the industry, even if they don't necessarily shine amongst Sony's top talent. Shit, imagine how good FL or HS would be with the budget they gave to Gurilla for KZ2.

You see my point, I know. Don't flame the damn developers over this shit. It's wrong.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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Skeeuk said:
libellule said:
"Namco Bandai has effectively robbed Sony of two of its better developers."


==> fail ...

article is pathetic and is clearly fanboy driven dribble. both them devs were always independant , they just made a few games on ps3 , they have a right to go with other publishers if they want.

Good post. These developers are good, and people who praised them when they were exclusive, but flame them now, are pathetic.

I'm not saying anyone did that in this thread, but if they did, it would make me sick. Sony should have signed these guys, but even though they didn't, they are still damn good, and better than most devs. I'd say they are better than anything from EA if not for Dead Space.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Dodece said:
@makingmusic476

Out of curiosity which side are you on?

There shouldn't even be sides. That's my issue with your post.

Perhaps your problem is that I am not on any side.

I'm sure.

That I refuse to be cataloged. That I cannot be contained to any singular viewpoint. That I can think of a situation in any number of ways. That I refuse to fight the war, but am more then happy to turn the battlefield upside down. Perhaps your problem is that I am actually rational, and not fanatical. I am basically free to be an agent for anything.
 

You usually create battlefields with your devisive posting, pitting gamer against gamer.  Just look at this thread.

You ask if I see it as a us versus them. No I see it as a them versus them. I am disconnected from the ebb and flow. I try to create a balance of opposition where I see one lacking. When I see a topic bogged down in the same old debate. I just have to pound a few wrinkles in. I am only interested in your war in the abstract. I am only interested in the nuance of what has, is, and will transpire. In other words I am the prototypical member for forums such as these. I do not care who wins. Only in the analytical debate that I can have.

I thrive on original debate, and fundamentally new points of view.

In other words expressing a dissenting opinion... just for the hell of it?  Sounds like that's another way of saying, "I like to start shit."

I am not happy unless I get to see something I haven't seen before.

Fanboy flames?

This little console war may matter to you and to others, but it doesn't matter to me.

Then why do you bring it up in every other post you make? You're constantly making commentary on what one side or the other is doing.

Am I wrong isn't that what these forums were for. For members to discuss the numbers, and to try to understand why things are happening.

That is what they are for.

Not for members to be on a side battling another side.

Then stop making posts that do nothing more than draw battle lines in the sand.  The terminology you use splits people into camps, and it only furthers the console war mentality.

You might not understand it now, but the forum needs more members like me.

We most certainly do not.  Posters like you bring war.

People that think outside of the box. That will keep the debate from being so stagnant that only soulless Fanboys find it rousing. Who will keep the discussion from just repeating itself verbatim forever, or until everyone gets bored with their little war.

If they became bored with it, maybe it would end.  Guys like you only keep it going strong.

Does that answer your question? On and before you say something like troll. No I am not a troll I am actually its polar opposite. I go off on my tangents for the benefit of all.
 

I see no benefit from your original post in this thread. 

Not out of some sense of narcissistic indulgence. I am knocking people out of complacency, and not causing any kind of disruption beyond providing an alternate point of view. So if you can't understand that then I just feel really sorry about that.

Being condescending will get you nowhere.  Also, calling youself "the prototypical member", or saying that we need "more members like [you]" doesn't help the case that you aren't a narcissist.  Actually, the fact that you had to make a point of saying you aren't narcissistic when nobody brought it up is rather telling.



ZenfoldorVGI said:
CGI-Quality said:
In fact, I REALLY don't see how these were two of Sony's better non-owned developers. Sure Heavenly Sword is fantastic, as is Folklore. But these two developers are even that well known amongst the Sony community, so I don't get it.

And Sony owns all these company's IPs, they could just get one of their own studios, or other 2nd Party studios to take them over...

I'm sorry, but BS. Real Sony fans survived off of Heavenly Sword and Folklore for a solid year. Those games were and still are amazing, and two of my favorite PS3 exclusives.

Sure, those two might not be as important financially, as other Sony exclusives, but for guys like you and I, we really know that these are some of the better developers in the industry, even if they don't necessarily shine amongst Sony's top talent. Shit, imagine how good FL or HS would be with the budget they gave to Gurilla for KZ2.

You see my point, I know. Don't flame the damn developers over this shit. It's wrong.

What?! Heavenly Sword and Folklore were not the largest titles in 2007. Not close. Folklore was largely ignored and Heavenly Sword was beaten to bits.



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

Check out MyAnimeList and my Game Collection. Owner of the 5 millionth post.

makingmusic476 said:
Dodece said:
@makingmusic476

Out of curiosity which side are you on?

There shouldn't even be sides. That's my issue with your post.

Perhaps your problem is that I am not on any side.

I'm sure.

That I refuse to be cataloged. That I cannot be contained to any singular viewpoint. That I can think of a situation in any number of ways. That I refuse to fight the war, but am more then happy to turn the battlefield upside down. Perhaps your problem is that I am actually rational, and not fanatical. I am basically free to be an agent for anything.

You usually create battlefields with your devisive posting, pitting gamer against gamer.  Just look at this thread.

You ask if I see it as a us versus them. No I see it as a them versus them. I am disconnected from the ebb and flow. I try to create a balance of opposition where I see one lacking. When I see a topic bogged down in the same old debate. I just have to pound a few wrinkles in. I am only interested in your war in the abstract. I am only interested in the nuance of what has, is, and will transpire. In other words I am the prototypical member for forums such as these. I do not care who wins. Only in the analytical debate that I can have.

I thrive on original debate, and fundamentally new points of view.

In other words expressing a dissenting opinion... just for the hell of it?  Sounds like that's another way of saying, "I like to start shit."

I am not happy unless I get to see something I haven't seen before.

Fanboy flames?

This little console war may matter to you and to others, but it doesn't matter to me.

Then why do you bring it up in every other post you make? You're constantly making commentary on what one side or the other is doing.

Am I wrong isn't that what these forums were for. For members to discuss the numbers, and to try to understand why things are happening.

That is what they are for.

Not for members to be on a side battling another side.

Then stop making posts that do nothing more than draw battle lines in the sand.  The terminology you use splits people into camps, and it only furthers the console war mentality.

You might not understand it now, but the forum needs more members like me.

We most certainly do not.  Posters like you bring war.

People that think outside of the box. That will keep the debate from being so stagnant that only soulless Fanboys find it rousing. Who will keep the discussion from just repeating itself verbatim forever, or until everyone gets bored with their little war.

If they became bored with it, maybe it would end.  Guys like you only keep it going strong.

Does that answer your question? On and before you say something like troll. No I am not a troll I am actually its polar opposite. I go off on my tangents for the benefit of all.

I see no benefit from your original post in this thread.

Not out of some sense of narcissistic indulgence. I am knocking people out of complacency, and not causing any kind of disruption beyond providing an alternate point of view. So if you can't understand that then I just feel really sorry about that.

Being condescending will get you nowhere.  Also, calling youself "the prototypical member", or saying that we need "more members like [you]" doesn't help the case that you aren't a narcissist.  Actually, the fact that you had to make a point of saying you aren't narcissistic when nobody brought it up is rather telling.

Ha! damn, go muscian! great post, talk about' getin' told.



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outlawauron said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
CGI-Quality said:
In fact, I REALLY don't see how these were two of Sony's better non-owned developers. Sure Heavenly Sword is fantastic, as is Folklore. But these two developers are even that well known amongst the Sony community, so I don't get it.

And Sony owns all these company's IPs, they could just get one of their own studios, or other 2nd Party studios to take them over...

I'm sorry, but BS. Real Sony fans survived off of Heavenly Sword and Folklore for a solid year. Those games were and still are amazing, and two of my favorite PS3 exclusives.

Sure, those two might not be as important financially, as other Sony exclusives, but for guys like you and I, we really know that these are some of the better developers in the industry, even if they don't necessarily shine amongst Sony's top talent. Shit, imagine how good FL or HS would be with the budget they gave to Gurilla for KZ2.

You see my point, I know. Don't flame the damn developers over this shit. It's wrong.

What?! Heavenly Sword and Folklore were not the largest titles in 2007. Not close. Folklore was largely ignored and Heavenly Sword was beaten to bits.

Ah, the crap it got for being so short with no replay value.

It was a decent game though with great production values. I'd watch those cut-scenes again!



LOL dodece u need a reality check dude....* looks at Musics post* oh...nvm lol



but on a serious note..dodece ur last post definitely proves my theory about you...u are egotist, I honestly think ur post aren't fuled by fanboyism but a twisted desire to see urself talk( or post)



Xxain said:
but on a serious note..dodece ur last post definitely proves my theory about you...u are egotist, I honestly think ur post aren't fuled by fanboyism but a twisted desire to see urself talk( or post)

That's why I do it...But I make sure I make myself laugh..Or  give myslef a boner due to my extreme fanboyism...



 



IllegalPaladin said:
outlawauron said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
CGI-Quality said:
In fact, I REALLY don't see how these were two of Sony's better non-owned developers. Sure Heavenly Sword is fantastic, as is Folklore. But these two developers are even that well known amongst the Sony community, so I don't get it.

And Sony owns all these company's IPs, they could just get one of their own studios, or other 2nd Party studios to take them over...

I'm sorry, but BS. Real Sony fans survived off of Heavenly Sword and Folklore for a solid year. Those games were and still are amazing, and two of my favorite PS3 exclusives.

Sure, those two might not be as important financially, as other Sony exclusives, but for guys like you and I, we really know that these are some of the better developers in the industry, even if they don't necessarily shine amongst Sony's top talent. Shit, imagine how good FL or HS would be with the budget they gave to Gurilla for KZ2.

You see my point, I know. Don't flame the damn developers over this shit. It's wrong.

What?! Heavenly Sword and Folklore were not the largest titles in 2007. Not close. Folklore was largely ignored and Heavenly Sword was beaten to bits.

Ah, the crap it got for being so short with no replay value.

It was a decent game though with great production values. I'd watch those cut-scenes again!

Exactly. I loved the game, but it got tore up by most.



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

Check out MyAnimeList and my Game Collection. Owner of the 5 millionth post.