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Thats a lot of words to not answer the question, CGI. Would you care to explain your reasoning for the prediction? Seems entirely out of the realm of possibilities given the numbers posted here. What effect do you expect the PS3 slim to have on week to week PS3 sales?



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CGI-Quality said:
johnsobas said:
CGI-Quality said:
johnsobas said:
Squilliam said:
CGI-Quality said:
RolStoppable said:

You got it backwards. The overconfidence created by the Slim (like this thread here) is the reason why the blackboard joke continues.

That's a select few people, not the entire community.

That blackboard exists out of insecurity, just like many of these threads...

Do you post in this thread out of insecurity?

this thread proves that it's more than a few people, and one of them is CGI himself.  He said he thinks the gap will be 2 million by sept 2010.  Try doing the math on that a sec buddy.

How am I insecure because of my prediction?

That doesn't match up especially since I don't agree with OP.

go ahead and break down your prediction to show how it could happen reasonably.  You're telling me that the PS3 is gonna outsell the wii by 3.11 million in 1 year, even though it's only sold 3.3 million in 3 years.  Face it, it's a fanboy prediction. 

There's the label I knew would crop up at some point. Read the edit in my previous post and leave your has-been labels at the door. People who can't debate reasonably (i.e. without labels) must have...

A. A specific motive

B. A weak argument

Which is it?

By the way, you didn't answer my question, since I don't agree with the OP, how am I insecure?

I said it in the edit, I didn't care to sit and do a realistic calculation because this thread is ridiculous. In other words, I agree that it's pointless and made that clear to the OP.

And for the record, no I don't care if the Wii continues to outsell the PS3. I've said it before that the PS3 would end this gen in last place, yes even behind the 360.

PS: Your posting is usually one-sided, so let's not go around pointing fingers...

 

so you didn't just say this?

"Japan? Maybe the PS3 will get to about 1.5-2mill behind the Wii by Sept 2010.

Let's try to understand, the PS3 has A LOT of catching up to do. I'm not saying it won't start closing in on some of these gaps, it will. However, it isn't in this vacuum where the Wii, or 360 for that matter, don't exist. The other consoles will STILL sell next to the PS3, it's just that the PS3 will sell more than before.

That's my assessment anyway..."

 

You don't have to break it down much, it doesn't take long to see that it's beyond impossble.

For the record my post was about the overconfidence of Sony fans after finding out about the slim.  This thread is a key example of this, it wasn't about being insecure.  I know that was a little unclear. 

My posting isn't one sided, I try to be as fair as possible using the facts i know.  Threads like this are just pathetic, so many Sony fans get drawn in and automatically agree without even thinking.  There are plenty of good Sony fans on this site, but there's plenty of trash too. 

How is the debate not reasonable?  What is unreasable is saying the PS3 is gonna outsell the wii by 3.11-3.61 million in 1 year in Japan



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CGI-Quality said:
Gnizmo said:
Thats a lot of words to not answer the question, CGI. Would you care to explain your reasoning for the prediction? Seems entirely out of the realm of possibilities given the numbers posted here. What effect do you expect the PS3 slim to have on week to week PS3 sales?

I'll reply to this because it's a reasonable curiosity.

I admit my calculation is way off, in fact I didn't remain in this thread too long because I saw it as immoble. I should have proof read my post a little closer, sure I can admit that too.

After really doing some calculations, I think the gap will never close past 3.5mill, if it even closes by that much. The Wii has established itself as this gen's leader. A PS3 price cut and Slimmer PS3 will do wonders for that platform, but will not close the gap by any means, not even in Japan.

What I find perplexing though is that I have people jumping on my case after reading a selection of my ealier post, while completely ignoring the fact that I put the Wii as unreachable.

i don't think you get the point, I don't care that it's the wii or that you said it won't pass the wii.  You're caught up on the fact that you think I want to hear that the wii won't be passed when in reality I don't care at all.  It doesn't matter if it's the wii, ps3, 360, or 3DO, you can't just go into a thread and make a completely impossible prediction and expect people to say nothing about it. 



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CGI-Quality said:

@ Squill: You are hardly someone that should ask about insecurities...

I simply asked you if you were posting out of insecurity. I didn't say you were being insecure, its because you called other people insecure.

 

 



Tease.

CGI-Quality said:
johnsobas said:
CGI-Quality said:
Gnizmo said:
Thats a lot of words to not answer the question, CGI. Would you care to explain your reasoning for the prediction? Seems entirely out of the realm of possibilities given the numbers posted here. What effect do you expect the PS3 slim to have on week to week PS3 sales?

I'll reply to this because it's a reasonable curiosity.

I admit my calculation is way off, in fact I didn't remain in this thread too long because I saw it as immoble. I should have proof read my post a little closer, sure I can admit that too.

After really doing some calculations, I think the gap will never close past 3.5mill, if it even closes by that much. The Wii has established itself as this gen's leader. A PS3 price cut and Slimmer PS3 will do wonders for that platform, but will not close the gap by any means, not even in Japan.

What I find perplexing though is that I have people jumping on my case after reading a selection of my ealier post, while completely ignoring the fact that I put the Wii as unreachable.

i don't think you get the point, I don't care that it's the wii or that you said it won't pass the wii.  You're caught up on the fact that you think I want to hear that the wii won't be passed when in reality I don't care at all.  It doesn't matter if it's the wii, ps3, 360, or 3DO, you can't just go into a thread and make a completely impossible prediction and expect people to say nothing about it. 

I don't mind that you brought my impossible prediction to my attention, in fact I appreciate it. I'm not known to make those, so the fatser it's corrected, the happier I'll be.

It's the labelling and name calling I felt you could have done without. I'm a fairly reasonable person, you could have had a reasonable discussion with me on this and we wouldn't currently be in a duel of words. That's all I'm saying...

you know there's a difference between saying fanboy prediction and calling you a fanboy?  The prediction was quite fanboyish, you aren't gonna change my mind about that. 



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An example of what johnsobas is talking about with using real predictions from formerly the most notable Wii Fanboy.

Johnlucas once predicted that MGS4 would never release on the PS3, and would instead be a 360 exclusive. This is clearly a fanboy prediction, and of the 360 variety. The twist here is Johnlucas had no real love for the 360 as I recall. So he was not a 360 fanboy, but it was a 360 fanboy prediction. It is the difference between attacking the poster, and attacking the argument.

Unrealistic predictions based more on gut feeling, and using no facts are fanboy predictions. You openly admit to not running the numbers, and just kind of guessing at it. Good on you for admitting your mistake, but a duck is a duck. I am not faulting you for the prediction at this point, but to call it anything other than a fanboy prediction is simply false. Simple fans will make fanboy predictions from time to time, so there is no shame in making one and then admitting to the mistake.



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CGI-Quality said:
johnsobas said:
CGI-Quality said:
johnsobas said:
CGI-Quality said:
Gnizmo said:
Thats a lot of words to not answer the question, CGI. Would you care to explain your reasoning for the prediction? Seems entirely out of the realm of possibilities given the numbers posted here. What effect do you expect the PS3 slim to have on week to week PS3 sales?

I'll reply to this because it's a reasonable curiosity.

I admit my calculation is way off, in fact I didn't remain in this thread too long because I saw it as immoble. I should have proof read my post a little closer, sure I can admit that too.

After really doing some calculations, I think the gap will never close past 3.5mill, if it even closes by that much. The Wii has established itself as this gen's leader. A PS3 price cut and Slimmer PS3 will do wonders for that platform, but will not close the gap by any means, not even in Japan.

What I find perplexing though is that I have people jumping on my case after reading a selection of my ealier post, while completely ignoring the fact that I put the Wii as unreachable.

i don't think you get the point, I don't care that it's the wii or that you said it won't pass the wii.  You're caught up on the fact that you think I want to hear that the wii won't be passed when in reality I don't care at all.  It doesn't matter if it's the wii, ps3, 360, or 3DO, you can't just go into a thread and make a completely impossible prediction and expect people to say nothing about it. 

I don't mind that you brought my impossible prediction to my attention, in fact I appreciate it. I'm not known to make those, so the fatser it's corrected, the happier I'll be.

It's the labelling and name calling I felt you could have done without. I'm a fairly reasonable person, you could have had a reasonable discussion with me on this and we wouldn't currently be in a duel of words. That's all I'm saying...

you know there's a difference between saying fanboy prediction and calling you a fanboy?  The prediction was quite fanboyish, you aren't gonna change my mind about that. 

You still insinuated that my post was one-sided and not created with an open mind, which couldn't be any further from the truth. In fact, "fanboyish" people wouldn't have corrected themselves OR admitted that they were wrong. I think people aren't fully clear on the word's definition, but oh well, I don't use the term towards anybody anyway.

We're getting a tad off-topic, even if I don't favor the material. You've made your point, I just don't agree.

You're probably right, i assumed you had actually thought about the words you were posting.  It may have been that you didn't mean to say that, since you say that you didn't i believe you.  You'll notice I didn't say anything bad since you admitted you didn't properly think your post.  However you also have to understand that you did post that and you're gonna get heat for it. 



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