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leo-j said:
Ofcourse not ZEN you bought and 80GB ps3, the slim cant be faster =P

Post a link. What's the problem?



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leo-j said:
Ofcourse not ZEN you bought and 80GB ps3, the slim cant be faster =P

Let me go a little more in depth here.

Leo-J, the speed of the PS3's XMB...can't get any faster as far as I can tell.

Loading speeds can and are increased by upgrading hard-drives.

Sony has said the the cell processor is the same on paper speed in both of these consoles.

The NEW phat 80gbs are only pulling 280w, and the slims are pulling 250w.

This thead, I assume, is based upon the ASSUMPTION of slim entheusiasts that the slim will be cooler, and thus cause the cell to play better after if has been on a while, and thus is "slightly faster."

Fact is, the difference in "power chugging" between the 280 and 250w models is negligable.

More to the point, we don't know how the slim will handle the heat issue. The PS2 slim was actually much hotter than the PS2.

Now, while assumptions are full of fail, always, this one assumes things that probably aren't possible.

As for the older models of the PS3 phat, which consume much more enery, and cause much more heat, it's entirely plausible that the heat could cause performance issues, but that doesn't mean that a PS3 running "right" is faster. The older Ps3 is just slower than it is supposed to be, because it is obsolete.

Next, gaming. Here is an assumption that isn't quite as full of fail as the rest. You can't increase the specs on the PS3 in a new model. Not for gaming. First and foremost, the cell was never the bottleneck for this. Secondly, loading speeds for many and most games is determined by the br disc speed, or the HD read speed, and not necessarily the processing speed, which is again, not a bottleneck.

And yes, Sony has confirmed that the PS3 slim will have the exact same BR speed as the original PS3 phat.

So, if Sony upped the specs, at all, developers couldn't make their games utilize these new specs. If they did, then the huge current fanbase wouldn't be able to buy those games, they wouldn't play, or would play shittily.

Actually, to look at the PS2 slims, the first ones overheated, and the final models of the PS2 phat, actually did run games smoother than the first versions of the PS2 slim, due to said heat issue. For the 80gb ps3 phat, heat isn't an issue. Frankly.

So, WTF bro, if Sony isn't saying it, and I'd be entirely open minded to seeing a link from anyone claiming this, except in a poorly thought out blog, then why pretend it's true?

When you get your slim, your perception might think, "ZOMG it runs so good." It's fine. However, don't ever use your perception as evidence. It's an anecdote that doesn't prove anything, and that's why I'm asking for a link.

Happy?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Blood_Tears said:
This link will outline any differences in new and old models

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/18/tabulator-ps3-slim-and-phat-sized-up/

My PS3's pulling 380W???? Shit....

Perhaps I should upgrade to a slim....



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Dgc1808 said:
Blood_Tears said:
This link will outline any differences in new and old models

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/18/tabulator-ps3-slim-and-phat-sized-up/

My PS3's pulling 380W???? Shit....

Perhaps I should upgrade to a slim....

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=83201&page=3

Read that before you make a decisions



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

No links yet?

Come on guys, you said it was faster, where did you hear that? Show us.

You make it up?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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ZenfoldorVGI said:
Dgc1808 said:
Blood_Tears said:
This link will outline any differences in new and old models

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/18/tabulator-ps3-slim-and-phat-sized-up/

My PS3's pulling 380W???? Shit....

Perhaps I should upgrade to a slim....

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=83201&page=3

Read that before you make a decisions

I have, those reason's don't bother me.

Only prob is that I need 4 USB ports...



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Soriku said:
Dgc1808 said:
numonex said:
Sony PR Spin. PS3 Slim is the same power as the old PS3

Give me a link to one point in time where SONY said the PS3 Slim was more powerful...


ONE


PS3 Slim Uses a New Cell That Has Many Performance Improvements

:O Better C3ll = More POWAHFUL!

But for real the Slim is probably gonna speed up load times...and that's it when it comes to power. Same power but it's smaller, takes up less energy so it's easier on bills and also is also cooler and with a removable HDD. That's pretty much the whole benefit.

That's a fair link, I'll accept that as evidence.

That said, I think the "performance improvements" mentioned are at least partly referring to "less heat" and "uses less power."

Performance improvements in a chip don't mean performance improvements in your games. Again, the cell was never the bottleneck here, and loading times have much more to do with HD and BR speed, than does processing speed.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. :P



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

it may be a bit faster, but mostly more efficient, and if somthing is more efficient then it will not work as hard and there for have more resources and memory to play with, maybe run a bit smoother and respond faster.  sony has made so changes to there operating system, it now uses less memory and runs faster, so we all should be in good shape.



Well, if the Slim install base grew to be larger than the current phat userbase, then might we start to see games that take more advantage of the improved cell...and by the time that happened Sony could bring the price of PS3 Slim down to $199, so the owners of phat would want to get a Slim?