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LordTheNightKnight on 22 August 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
frybread said:
routsounmanman said:
Seriously, they don't actually like the system. When you deduct points from Super Mario Galaxy for the co-op being "an afterthought" or from Mario Kart Wii for "being too casual" and "based on luck", certainly something is wrong.

Exactly.  Journalists just parrot each other "mario kart is luck! mario kart is luck!"  I remember I read that in every review.

How many of them actually obtained an 8000+ rating?  How many have won a tournament?  Try one of those and call it luck, please.

What I'm wondering, since I don't have the game yet, is if the blue shell comes more often if you play the game like Mario Kart or try to play it like a straight racing game.

There's a fixed percent chance of getting each item that differs based on the position you're in.  If you're in first place a lot, you will get hit by blue shells a lot.

I have no idea what you mean when you say "play the game like Mario Kart."  Is this some kind of Casual vs Hardcore argument lead-in?

I mean if you use items and other MK features instead of just using pure racing to get in the lead.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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noname2200 on 22 August 2009

You can't hype what doesn't exist!



gansito on 22 August 2009

sadness was hyped :P



Arius Dion on 22 August 2009

It's against the law, that's why.

Also even in the reviews GTA4 got a 10 from IGN and other outlets, and was never deducted any points for any of their complaints. Galaxy? Story got points deducted (even though I play games for the game the story doesn't matter if the game sucks, ever notice that?)

Also The Conduit. The word "generic" was the buzzword of the hour. The thing about Conduit though, is the Control customization will see Conduit vindicated. Any FPS on the Wii that doesn't include this feature will feel gimped. Now big dogs like Ubisoft and Activision are including this feature. That is really something, HVS should feel proud.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

famousringo on 22 August 2009

I think Naznatips summed it up best:

People, maybe you can't tell cause you weren't there, but the mainstream gaming press hates Nintendo. It's not something grounded in logic. They complain about Nintendo not showing enough hardcore games, but when they do they complain about 3rd parties getting no attention. Nintendo fills their booth with half 3rd party and half 1st party games, and then the media complains that Nintendo didn't have enough good stuff of their own to show. They announce sequels to games that will NEVER sell as well as Wii series games, just for the Hardcore (SMG2, Metroid, Golden Sun), and people still complain.

As an all-platform gamer who just spent 4 days in a row with these people, allow me to present you with a shocking revelation: the press is biased.



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

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SaviorX on 22 August 2009
famousringo said:

I think Naznatips summed it up best:

People, maybe you can't tell cause you weren't there, but the mainstream gaming press hates Nintendo. It's not something grounded in logic. They complain about Nintendo not showing enough hardcore games, but when they do they complain about 3rd parties getting no attention. Nintendo fills their booth with half 3rd party and half 1st party games, and then the media complains that Nintendo didn't have enough good stuff of their own to show. They announce sequels to games that will NEVER sell as well as Wii series games, just for the Hardcore (SMG2, Metroid, Golden Sun), and people still complain.

As an all-platform gamer who just spent 4 days in a row with these people, allow me to present you with a shocking revelation: the press is biased.

I'll save this one for a rainy day.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

LordTheNightKnight on 22 August 2009
famousringo said:

I think Naznatips summed it up best:

People, maybe you can't tell cause you weren't there, but the mainstream gaming press hates Nintendo. It's not something grounded in logic. They complain about Nintendo not showing enough hardcore games, but when they do they complain about 3rd parties getting no attention. Nintendo fills their booth with half 3rd party and half 1st party games, and then the media complains that Nintendo didn't have enough good stuff of their own to show. They announce sequels to games that will NEVER sell as well as Wii series games, just for the Hardcore (SMG2, Metroid, Golden Sun), and people still complain.

As an all-platform gamer who just spent 4 days in a row with these people, allow me to present you with a shocking revelation: the press is biased.

And when this is who represents your audience, you have a red ocean.

Plus it makes it really unreasonable to wonder why Nintendo abandoned them. They abandoned Nintedo first.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

noname2200 on 22 August 2009
LordTheNightKnight said:
famousringo said:

I think Naznatips summed it up best:

People, maybe you can't tell cause you weren't there, but the mainstream gaming press hates Nintendo. It's not something grounded in logic. They complain about Nintendo not showing enough hardcore games, but when they do they complain about 3rd parties getting no attention. Nintendo fills their booth with half 3rd party and half 1st party games, and then the media complains that Nintendo didn't have enough good stuff of their own to show. They announce sequels to games that will NEVER sell as well as Wii series games, just for the Hardcore (SMG2, Metroid, Golden Sun), and people still complain.

As an all-platform gamer who just spent 4 days in a row with these people, allow me to present you with a shocking revelation: the press is biased.

And when this is who represents your audience, you have a red ocean.

Plus it makes it really unreasonable to wonder why Nintendo abandoned them. They abandoned Nintedo first.

The problem, as others in this thread have pointed out, is the DS: the enthusiast press has eventually come to embrace it (albeit only two years after its release). It can't be a Nintendo thing; for that to be true, we'd have to have a reason why the DS escaped being painted with this brush (even if it took two years for that to happen).



LordTheNightKnight on 22 August 2009

It's not that they like the DS as much as they've given up hope of the PSP beating it, and they haven't given up hope of the HD systems beating the Wii.

And there was quite a bit of DS bashing when Chinatown Wars failed to have a huge opening, blaming the system, and not the atypical control and art style (because they thought GTA has hardcore appeal, not casual appeal that the 3D games showed).



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

noname2200 on 22 August 2009
LordTheNightKnight said:
It's not that they like the DS as much as they've given up hope of the PSP beating it, and they haven't given up hope of the HD systems beating the Wii.

And there was quite a bit of DS bashing when Chinatown Wars failed to have a huge opening, blaming the system, and not the atypical control and art style (because they thought GTA has hardcore appeal, not casual appeal that the 3D games showed).

But why would they surrender on one, but not the other? Recall that when the shift occured, the DS was still behind the PSP in sales, and it took several years before the nail was put in the handheld coffin. I don't think sales have much to do with it.