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kirby007 said:
SO I'm not to happy with taker vs lesner, lesnar isn't very technical so taker needs to do the work. for thefirst time i fear a boring taker match
i rather have had bryan vs taker, technical guys seem to be the biggest threat.


Yeah... and breaking Taker's streak is probably the only other match Daniel Bryan could have outside the title match that could avoid the rain of boo's on wrestlemania.



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Runa216 said:
pokoko said:

Joshi spotlight match of the week.

Really good contest between Natsuki*Taiyo and Io Shirai for the World of Stardom title.  Natsuki*Taiyo is so quick and agile, while Io Shirai (tiger mask) is one of my favorites.  She's fearless with her moonsaults and her athleticism is amazing.  She gets her nose busted by Natsuki's slaps but gets revenge with a double footstomp moonsault that had to hurt like hell.

Holy shit, THOSE are female wrestlers!  Why can't WWE hire women like that?  Some of those locks, grapples, and counters were up there with Daniel Bryan!  

Could use some work on ring psychology, though. 

Nice to see it appreciated, thanks.  =]  My theory is that the WWE knows their Divas would look like a joke if they brought in Japanese talent.

As far as ring psychology goes, Japanese promotions will often go outside of the "heel vs. face" set-up.  They shook hands at the beginning, which means they respect one another, so there was no build-up in that regard.  It's not a feud so they didn't play it that way.  Sometimes there is drama, sometimes where is just a quality match.



Kasz216 said:
kirby007 said:
SO I'm not to happy with taker vs lesner, lesnar isn't very technical so taker needs to do the work. for thefirst time i fear a boring taker match
i rather have had bryan vs taker, technical guys seem to be the biggest threat.


Yeah... and breaking Taker's streak is probably the only other match Daniel Bryan could have outside the title match that could avoid the rain of boo's on wrestlemania.


Looking at the Card so far for Wrestlemania I think there should be whole load of cheering going on for Randy Savage at least. That main Event of Orton Vs Batista has the least amount of heat I've seen at a Wrestlemania as far back as I can remember, Unless they set up another Orton Vs Batista's parents a la the "Down Goes Cena" Era of Orton with Cena Senior or else Batista properly gets into the Heel Champion thing and does actually start having a go at the crowd in the next 40 days til WMXXX then the WWE universe are going to voice their opinion for 3 straight hours on the first PPV on the WWE Network

I fucking loved Hogans return btw if ye watched Raw? Came out and said they were launching the WWE Universe rather than saying WWE Network. Pretty nasty slip up for 2 reasons, 1 everyone has been plugging the WWE Network like their jobs depended on it for the past couple of months and it also suggests that Hogan isn't aware of what the WWE Fanbase is now referred to as, bad move when trying to play the part of the Baby Face presenter of an event with 1 possible decent match on the cards and that is of a MMA fighter beating up a 48 year old man for 30+ mins, will be uncomfortable viewing I fear.

 

Edit -  Fair few people acknowledge that Taker is rather old now right? Altho it looks like he has his face botoxed to within an inch of his life ya know Dave Batista is only 3 years younger than him at a ripe old age of 45, why is he main eventing this... The WWE universe wanted him when he left but that was 4 years ago, he is now wanted for the Hall of Fame induction at Wrestlemania and nothing else.



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kirby007 said:
SO I'm not to happy with taker vs lesner, lesnar isn't very technical so taker needs to do the work. for thefirst time i fear a boring taker match
i rather have had bryan vs taker, technical guys seem to be the biggest threat.

Disagree.  Brock is one of the few guys that can legit wrestle.  He's as technical as the come.  The guy was an NCAA champ before coming to the WWE.  He probably wrestles the way he does because he's such a big guy and that's what you expect from him but he's of the same calibre as guys like Kurt Angle (another NCAA champ), Shelton Benjamin and such.  He's a powerhouse for sure but he knows how to wrestle.  Those "You can't wrestle" chants are one thing you'll never hear at a Brock Lesnar match.  Fans know the real thing when they see it.

Anyway, to get you excited for the match:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQcpFhcNNUA  No Mercy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV-EW5Kt4_8   Hell in a Cell!



I hope so, but i have my doubt.
Anyhow since it will be kinda a new era being Mania XXX and such i might see them break the streak for a total media blowout



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d21lewis said:
kirby007 said:
SO I'm not to happy with taker vs lesner, lesnar isn't very technical so taker needs to do the work. for thefirst time i fear a boring taker match
i rather have had bryan vs taker, technical guys seem to be the biggest threat.

Disagree.  Brock is one of the few guys that can legit wrestle.  He's as technical as the come.  The guy was an NCAA champ before coming to the WWE.  He probably wrestles the way he does because he's such a big guy and that's what you expect from him but he's of the same calibre as guys like Kurt Angle (another NCAA champ), Shelton Benjamin and such.  He's a powerhouse for sure but he knows how to wrestle.  Those "You can't wrestle" chants are one thing you'll never hear at a Brock Lesnar match.  Fans know the real thing when they see it.

Anyway, to get you excited for the match:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQcpFhcNNUA  No Mercy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV-EW5Kt4_8   Hell in a Cell!


Yup. I was going to say the same thing when I read that Post. Brock Lesnar is an amazing technical wrestler. When he was in his prime, He was on a Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit level. He can wrestle Big man Style, Mat based style, Hardcore style, He can do it all. No doubt he is going to put on a wrestling clinic with Undertaker.  



RVDondaPC said:
d21lewis said:
kirby007 said:
SO I'm not to happy with taker vs lesner, lesnar isn't very technical so taker needs to do the work. for thefirst time i fear a boring taker match
i rather have had bryan vs taker, technical guys seem to be the biggest threat.

Disagree.  Brock is one of the few guys that can legit wrestle.  He's as technical as the come.  The guy was an NCAA champ before coming to the WWE.  He probably wrestles the way he does because he's such a big guy and that's what you expect from him but he's of the same calibre as guys like Kurt Angle (another NCAA champ), Shelton Benjamin and such.  He's a powerhouse for sure but he knows how to wrestle.  Those "You can't wrestle" chants are one thing you'll never hear at a Brock Lesnar match.  Fans know the real thing when they see it.

Anyway, to get you excited for the match:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQcpFhcNNUA  No Mercy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV-EW5Kt4_8   Hell in a Cell!


Yup. I was going to say the same thing when I read that Post. Brock Lesnar is an amazing technical wrestler. When he was in his prime, He was on a Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit level. He can wrestle Big man Style, Mat based style, Hardcore style, He can do it all. No doubt he is going to put on a wrestling clinic with Undertaker.  

I have one small issue with this mentality...he USED to be that good.  He USED to be a perfect blend of speed, power, and technicality.  Have you SEEN any of his matches since he returned?   he is nowhere near the same level as in 2002/2003.  He's not as fast, he's not as technical, and his years in MMA have changed his style from that of an impressive wrestler to a shoot fighter.  

Brock is not the entertainer he once was.



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Runa216 said:
RVDondaPC said:
d21lewis said:
kirby007 said:
SO I'm not to happy with taker vs lesner, lesnar isn't very technical so taker needs to do the work. for thefirst time i fear a boring taker match
i rather have had bryan vs taker, technical guys seem to be the biggest threat.

Disagree.  Brock is one of the few guys that can legit wrestle.  He's as technical as the come.  The guy was an NCAA champ before coming to the WWE.  He probably wrestles the way he does because he's such a big guy and that's what you expect from him but he's of the same calibre as guys like Kurt Angle (another NCAA champ), Shelton Benjamin and such.  He's a powerhouse for sure but he knows how to wrestle.  Those "You can't wrestle" chants are one thing you'll never hear at a Brock Lesnar match.  Fans know the real thing when they see it.

Anyway, to get you excited for the match:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQcpFhcNNUA  No Mercy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV-EW5Kt4_8   Hell in a Cell!


Yup. I was going to say the same thing when I read that Post. Brock Lesnar is an amazing technical wrestler. When he was in his prime, He was on a Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit level. He can wrestle Big man Style, Mat based style, Hardcore style, He can do it all. No doubt he is going to put on a wrestling clinic with Undertaker.  

I have one small issue with this mentality...he USED to be that good.  He USED to be a perfect blend of speed, power, and technicality.  Have you SEEN any of his matches since he returned?   he is nowhere near the same level as in 2002/2003.  He's not as fast, he's not as technical, and his years in MMA have changed his style from that of an impressive wrestler to a shoot fighter.  

Brock is not the entertainer he once was.

He's still fairly young and he stayed in shape.  I've enjoyed his matches--except for vs. Big Show at the Royal Rumble...if you call that a match.  He'll be fine.



d21lewis said:
Runa216 said:
RVDondaPC said:
d21lewis said:
kirby007 said:
SO I'm not to happy with taker vs lesner, lesnar isn't very technical so taker needs to do the work. for thefirst time i fear a boring taker match
i rather have had bryan vs taker, technical guys seem to be the biggest threat.

Disagree.  Brock is one of the few guys that can legit wrestle.  He's as technical as the come.  The guy was an NCAA champ before coming to the WWE.  He probably wrestles the way he does because he's such a big guy and that's what you expect from him but he's of the same calibre as guys like Kurt Angle (another NCAA champ), Shelton Benjamin and such.  He's a powerhouse for sure but he knows how to wrestle.  Those "You can't wrestle" chants are one thing you'll never hear at a Brock Lesnar match.  Fans know the real thing when they see it.

Anyway, to get you excited for the match:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQcpFhcNNUA  No Mercy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV-EW5Kt4_8   Hell in a Cell!


Yup. I was going to say the same thing when I read that Post. Brock Lesnar is an amazing technical wrestler. When he was in his prime, He was on a Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit level. He can wrestle Big man Style, Mat based style, Hardcore style, He can do it all. No doubt he is going to put on a wrestling clinic with Undertaker.  

I have one small issue with this mentality...he USED to be that good.  He USED to be a perfect blend of speed, power, and technicality.  Have you SEEN any of his matches since he returned?   he is nowhere near the same level as in 2002/2003.  He's not as fast, he's not as technical, and his years in MMA have changed his style from that of an impressive wrestler to a shoot fighter.  

Brock is not the entertainer he once was.

He's still fairly young and he stayed in shape.  I've enjoyed his matches--except for vs. Big Show at the Royal Rumble...if you call that a match.  He'll be fine.

You mean Rumble A Chair? urgh nvm dont get me started on the rumble again



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d21lewis said:
Runa216 said:

I have one small issue with this mentality...he USED to be that good.  He USED to be a perfect blend of speed, power, and technicality.  Have you SEEN any of his matches since he returned?   he is nowhere near the same level as in 2002/2003.  He's not as fast, he's not as technical, and his years in MMA have changed his style from that of an impressive wrestler to a shoot fighter.  

Brock is not the entertainer he once was.

He's still fairly young and he stayed in shape.  I've enjoyed his matches--except for vs. Big Show at the Royal Rumble...if you call that a match.  He'll be fine.

I'm on the fence.  I do think he's looked somewhat sloppy at times since he's returned.  He did bust Cena open on accident and he looked kind of awkward and dangerous now and then against Triple H.  He certainly hasn't looked as good as he used to, which is to be expected.

On the other hand, I'm going to assume that his match with the Undertaker will be heavily rehersed and coreographed, as usual for a Streak match, and they both certainly have the time.  It should go according to plan.

Still, I'm not sure the match is going to be all that good.  I watched the Triple H/Undertaker match again and realized it wasn't very good physically, it's just that the story being told was so enthralling that it elevated the whole event.  I hope I'm wrong and it's not another Lesnar/Cena match, where Lesnar completely dominates until the end.