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darkknightkryta said:

No reason for them not to be getting close to 2.0 ratings.  Now they can barely manage 1.0.

Actually, there is a very good reason.  Pretty much nothing will ever get a 2.0 on Spike.  I don't even have the channel.  In no way can it compare to channels like TBS or USA.  In today's world, a wrestling promotion's growth is capped by the television deal they're able to get.

Wrestling is all ebb and flow, anyway.  Earlier this year, I thought TNA was clearly better than the WWE.  Roode, Aries, Styles, Daniels, and RVD were turning in some fantastic performances.  Even Bully Ray was interesting for awhile.  Now, in my opinion, the WWE has again taken the lead with Cesaro, Bryan, Punk, and the most recent HHH heel storyline.  The Aces & 8's storyline, however, has run its course and Bully Ray isn't able to hold anyone's attention as the top heel.

All TNA really needs is to maintain a steady direction.  They've had SO many different people running the show over the years that everything kind of falls apart.  It's like a football team that changes head-coach every two years, it just doesn't work.  The WWE is where it is because it has had steady leadership.

If it were me, I'd try to go back to the things that made TNA stand out to begin with, rather than try to be WWE Jr.  They used to have THE best tag team division, possibly in the history of televised professional wrestling.  Feature that again--though, it does look they're improving that aspect, as Bad Influence is awesome.  Make that a big, serious part of the show, with tag matches main eventing now and then.

They've got a good core with the Knockouts, they need to give them 2-3 matches every Impact.  Go out and grab more performers.  There is some fantastic talent out there.  Why isn't Mia Yim signed with anyone?  Bring in some of the Japanese girls, many of them would love to do a tour in the US--just look at Shimmer, which is taped in Chicago, with a roster that is basically half Joshi.  The Beautiful People used to be the highest rated part of Impact, so it's obvious that female wrestlers can draw.  Why not set up a partnership with Stardom or another promotion?

Finally, the X Division title used to stand right up there with the WHC in terms of importance.  Make that happen again.  This "trade up" gimmick makes it look secondary.  Someone needs to refuse and say they'd rather have the X title.

Overall, the TNA roster is just as talented as the WWE's roster.  Hogan doesn't really have much to do with the product but I wouldn't mind seeing them cut his salary and move on.  He really hasn't brought very much beyond that first buzz.  I think they'll be okay in the long run.  I just want to see another AJ or Samoa Joe major title run.



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pokoko said:
darkknightkryta said:

No reason for them not to be getting close to 2.0 ratings.  Now they can barely manage 1.0.

Actually, there is a very good reason.  Pretty much nothing will ever get a 2.0 on Spike.  I don't even have the channel.  In no way can it compare to channels like TBS or USA.  In today's world, a wrestling promotion's growth is capped by the television deal they're able to get.

Wrestling is all ebb and flow, anyway.  Earlier this year, I thought TNA was clearly better than the WWE.  Roode, Aries, Styles, Daniels, and RVD were turning in some fantastic performances.  Even Bully Ray was interesting for awhile.  Now, in my opinion, the WWE has again taken the lead with Cesaro, Bryan, Punk, and the most recent HHH heel storyline.  The Aces & 8's storyline, however, has run its course and Bully Ray isn't able to hold anyone's attention as the top heel.

All TNA really needs is to maintain a steady direction.  They've had SO many different people running the show over the years that everything kind of falls apart.  It's like a football team that changes head-coach every two years, it just doesn't work.  The WWE is where it is because it has had steady leadership.

If it were me, I'd try to go back to the things that made TNA stand out to begin with, rather than try to be WWE Jr.  They used to have THE best tag team division, possibly in the history of televised professional wrestling.  Feature that again--though, it does look they're improving that aspect, as Bad Influence is awesome.  Make that a big, serious part of the show, with tag matches main eventing now and then.

They've got a good core with the Knockouts, they need to give them 2-3 matches every Impact.  Go out and grab more performers.  There is some fantastic talent out there.  Why isn't Mia Yim signed with anyone?  Bring in some of the Japanese girls, many of them would love to do a tour in the US--just look at Shimmer, which is taped in Chicago, with a roster that is basically half Joshi.  The Beautiful People used to be the highest rated part of Impact, so it's obvious that female wrestlers can draw.  Why not set up a partnership with Stardom or another promotion?

Finally, the X Division title used to stand right up there with the WHC in terms of importance.  Make that happen again.  This "trade up" gimmick makes it look secondary.  Someone needs to refuse and say they'd rather have the X title.

Overall, the TNA roster is just as talented as the WWE's roster.  Hogan doesn't really have much to do with the product but I wouldn't mind seeing them cut his salary and move on.  He really hasn't brought very much beyond that first buzz.  I think they'll be okay in the long run.  I just want to see another AJ or Samoa Joe major title run.

Cornette was saying in an Interview that they had the ratings up to 1.3 while he was there.  I'm sure they could have worked it more to 1.6/1.7 (Which is where I was hinting it should be at).  But you're right.  Hell I was just thinking today that the X-Division is what made TNA what it was.  The heavyweight championship was more or less a title to keep Jarret away from the X-division.  Even the women wrestling is getting bad.  They need more investments in talents; like women and tag teams.  But it looks like money's run out :/.

P.S. Bully Ray sucks.  Aces and Eights has run their course.  Same with the "Main Event Mafia"



Just puting this in there, never thought bryan would be this over during the time he was whc, loving it!



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gooch_destroyer said:

this was one of my Favorite TNA matches.

 

Is that the final match, the loser disbands?  Oh, heck yeah, it is.  Awesome match.  Blew me away the first time I saw it.  It's hard to see on youtube but the mat was just stained red.

And that hurricanrana.

One of the biggest, craziest, and most amazing spots in wrestling history, period.



pokoko said:
gooch_destroyer said:

this was one of my Favorite TNA matches.

 

Is that the final match, the loser disbands?  Oh, heck yeah, it is.  Awesome match.  Blew me away the first time I saw it.  It's hard to see on youtube but the mat was just stained red.

And that hurricanrana.

One of the biggest, craziest, and most amazing spots in wrestling history, period.

Remember Ultimate X at Final Resolution 2005? I loved that match also. Made me want to support TNA even more 



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By the way, my last post was in reference to AJ Lee if that somehow got mixed up with AJ Styles.



Speaking of female talent that needs to be signed by one of the big promotions, does anyone know who Mia Yim is?  If you don't, give this video a watch.  It's a recap of her TLC match with Greg Excellent.  I absolutely love the power bomb at the end.

I also love the top post on youtube: "its amazing how a girl and a obese man can have a better match than rock and cena."



pokoko said:

Speaking of female talent that needs to be signed by one of the big promotions, does anyone know who Mia Yim is?  If you don't, give this video a watch.  It's a recap of her TLC match with Greg Excellent.  I absolutely love the power bomb at the end.

I also love the top post on youtube: "its amazing how a girl and a obese man can have a better match than rock and cena."

Are they husband and wife? 

Ad dammit Pokoko!  I told you to tell me where your avatar is from >:(



darkknightkryta said:

Are they husband and wife?

Ad dammit Pokoko!  I told you to tell me where your avatar is from >:(

Nah, I think they were doing a storyline where he had a crush on her.

Oh, that's what you meant!  She's from Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru.  I forget what the English title is.



pokoko said:

Speaking of female talent that needs to be signed by one of the big promotions, does anyone know who Mia Yim is?  If you don't, give this video a watch.  It's a recap of her TLC match with Greg Excellent.  I absolutely love the power bomb at the end.

I also love the top post on youtube: "its amazing how a girl and a obese man can have a better match than rock and cena."

Why? Why? WHY? Why can't I make these videos you post fullscreen?

Also, WOW! I've never seen a man get so brutal with a woman in the ring! I want to see the full match. I wonder how long it was, because the clip makes it seem like a complete spotfest. And I'm usually the last one to call for blood, but she her face really should have been painted by the end.