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So what does everybody think about the whole Wyatt thing? I think they had a good thing and botched it hard. I don't know why, but that fake white LED lantern when they enter the arena pisses me off so much. It just ruins the whole thing for me. I thought it was for safety reasons but they lit up a real lantern after the ring of fire match with kane if I remember correctly.

 

Edit: Regarding TNA, I really like that they dropped that lone wolf/emo angle for Styles, I let out an audible "oh yeeeaahhh" when the music changed.

 

Edit2: I also like TNA more than WWE right now. Storylines on both companies are pretty retarded but Aj Styles, Austin Aries and Samoa Joe are amazing, probably my favorites right now. I need them to be in the same promotion as Daniels and Punk and it would be perfect. Throw in Kurt Angle as the legend / heel and Edge as GM and I would be in wrestling heaven.

 

I also want to give late props for the two Gail Kim / Taryn Terrell matches, they were really really good.



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burninmylight said:
Kasz216 said:
BasilZero said:
bobgamez said:


And I hope he leaves that sinking ship TNA.

Their shows havent been great nor good in the past few months.

Ever since Hogan appeared it has been getting worse and worse.

I thought the first month or so with Hogan was a HUGE improvement.

Then  it just plunged off a cliff so fast it was crazy as soon as they decided to challenge WWE on Mondays, Anderson got injured and Hogan began to think he was the only draw.   When the truth is, he isn't exactlly Abdullah the Butcher, so he can't wrestle at his age.

Had Hogan and Bischoff been brought in, only for like... 2 months to make a lot of the changes TNA needed, then been showed the door... with Russo.   TNA would be in good shape.

 

Russo is like the Rob Liefeld or Mark Miller of Wrestling.

 

All the Joshi clips here are sort of Ironic... because if I ran TNA that's probably what i'd do.  Just get rid of all the male stars and try and build a female USA Wreslting base.  They've some of the best workers on the roster anyway....  TNA name...

Put some good writing and personality behind female stars and i think they'd be surprised.


I think about that from time to time. I could imagine an accountant screaming in Dixie's ear about how women like Gail Kim and Awesome Kong used to get higher ratings than the men, yet earn like a fifth of what Scott Hall was getting to show up and not take bumps.

I'd still have some men around, but it would pretty much be all X-Division guys who won't demand heaps of cash for what they did in other promotions. I'd completely market it around being an alternative and exceling at what the WWE doesn't: high-flying, fast paced matches and women that can actually wrestle. Obviously TV ratings would never crack anything beyond a 1.0 and PPV/ticket buys wouldn't be that great, but since I wouldn't be paying crusty old bastards like Hogan 30K an appearance, I wouldn't be hermorraghing nearly as much dough.


Yeah they're hanging around the 1.0 mark anyway... so why not?

Who knows, you might even be able to draw in some female fans.

Hell to me Awesome Kong was the best thing in the WWE during her short run.



Chandler said:

So what does everybody think about the whole Wyatt thing? I think they had a good thing and botched it hard. I don't know why, but that fake white LED lantern when they enter the arena pisses me off so much. It just ruins the whole thing for me. I thought it was for safety reasons but they lit up a real lantern after the ring of fire match with kane if I remember correctly.

 

Edit: Regarding TNA, I really like that they dropped that lone wolf/emo angle for Styles, I let out an audible "oh yeeeaahhh" when the music changed.

 

Edit2: I also like TNA more than WWE right now. Storylines on both companies are pretty retarded but Aj Styles, Austin Aries and Samoa Joe are amazing, probably my favorites right now. I need them to be in the same promotion as Daniels and Punk and it would be perfect. Throw in Kurt Angle as the legend / heel and Edge as GM and I would be in wrestling heaven.

 

I also want to give late props for the two Gail Kim / Taryn Terrell matches, they were really really good.

I like them.  They're like those hick killers who live in the forest in those movies that never actually get made, but get made fun of in comedies.  Though I think they're making Bray look too weak.  He needs to be better than his "family" yet he can't do anything without them.

I don't really like TNA right now; they have the talent but the entire company's a mess.  I facepalm everytime I see a skit from them.  Their skits are also very low in production values, it's like they change cameras for them.  Plus Bully Ray can't carry a company; he needs a better face to face him and TNA's faces are very lifeless.  Plus WWE has really picked up the wrestling recently; so TNA doesn't even have that to claim anymore.  TNA's current roster is getting old and they need some new faces to make a splash, much like their current roster did almost 10 years ago.  Styles, Joe, etc, they were good then, but they're getting old.



pokoko said:

With all the AJ Styles talk, I decided to go back and watch one of my favorite matches ever.  Most have probably already seen it, but if you haven't, it's definitely worth a look.  All three guys are fantastic.

This is probably my most favourite wrestling match ever. I watched this match 5 times already and it never gets old. :*D 

 

Some of my favourite AJ matches is with Abyess in the steel cage his 2 out of 3 pin fall against Kurt Angle every freaking time he gets in the ring with christopher danels and samoa joe!!! 

 

AJ and Daniel was also my favourite tag team with there epic fuelled with the naturals, america most wanted and of course FREAKING LAX. Oh and AJ and Daniels vs LAX in an ultimate X match was amazing and also probably my second most favourite match. 

 

I really hope AJ styles stays in TNA he still have a storyline that they've been building up also his walks alone gimmick is badass. TNA wouldn't feel right without Mr. TNA. Also unlike a lot of people he was the reason I got into wrestling although I only watch TNA :P



 

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darkknightkryta said:
Chandler said:

So what does everybody think about the whole Wyatt thing? I think they had a good thing and botched it hard. I don't know why, but that fake white LED lantern when they enter the arena pisses me off so much. It just ruins the whole thing for me. I thought it was for safety reasons but they lit up a real lantern after the ring of fire match with kane if I remember correctly.

 

Edit: Regarding TNA, I really like that they dropped that lone wolf/emo angle for Styles, I let out an audible "oh yeeeaahhh" when the music changed.

 

Edit2: I also like TNA more than WWE right now. Storylines on both companies are pretty retarded but Aj Styles, Austin Aries and Samoa Joe are amazing, probably my favorites right now. I need them to be in the same promotion as Daniels and Punk and it would be perfect. Throw in Kurt Angle as the legend / heel and Edge as GM and I would be in wrestling heaven.

 

I also want to give late props for the two Gail Kim / Taryn Terrell matches, they were really really good.

I like them.  They're like those hick killers who live in the forest in those movies that never actually get made, but get made fun of in comedies.  Though I think they're making Bray look too weak.  He needs to be better than his "family" yet he can't do anything without them.

I don't really like TNA right now; they have the talent but the entire company's a mess.  I facepalm everytime I see a skit from them.  Their skits are also very low in production values, it's like they change cameras for them.  Plus Bully Ray can't carry a company; he needs a better face to face him and TNA's faces are very lifeless.  Plus WWE has really picked up the wrestling recently; so TNA doesn't even have that to claim anymore.  TNA's current roster is getting old and they need some new faces to make a splash, much like their current roster did almost 10 years ago.  Styles, Joe, etc, they were good then, but they're getting old.

Are you freaking serious Joe and Styles are in the same age range as Bryan and Punk.  In the last year TNA put over bobby Roode, Austin Aries (They're tag team run was funny as heck dirty heels FTW) Daniels and Kaz and Chris Sabin. Right now it looks like they're finally going to give Magnus a push.



 

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SnakeDrake said:
darkknightkryta said:
Chandler said:

So what does everybody think about the whole Wyatt thing? I think they had a good thing and botched it hard. I don't know why, but that fake white LED lantern when they enter the arena pisses me off so much. It just ruins the whole thing for me. I thought it was for safety reasons but they lit up a real lantern after the ring of fire match with kane if I remember correctly.

 

Edit: Regarding TNA, I really like that they dropped that lone wolf/emo angle for Styles, I let out an audible "oh yeeeaahhh" when the music changed.

 

Edit2: I also like TNA more than WWE right now. Storylines on both companies are pretty retarded but Aj Styles, Austin Aries and Samoa Joe are amazing, probably my favorites right now. I need them to be in the same promotion as Daniels and Punk and it would be perfect. Throw in Kurt Angle as the legend / heel and Edge as GM and I would be in wrestling heaven.

 

I also want to give late props for the two Gail Kim / Taryn Terrell matches, they were really really good.

I like them.  They're like those hick killers who live in the forest in those movies that never actually get made, but get made fun of in comedies.  Though I think they're making Bray look too weak.  He needs to be better than his "family" yet he can't do anything without them.

I don't really like TNA right now; they have the talent but the entire company's a mess.  I facepalm everytime I see a skit from them.  Their skits are also very low in production values, it's like they change cameras for them.  Plus Bully Ray can't carry a company; he needs a better face to face him and TNA's faces are very lifeless.  Plus WWE has really picked up the wrestling recently; so TNA doesn't even have that to claim anymore.  TNA's current roster is getting old and they need some new faces to make a splash, much like their current roster did almost 10 years ago.  Styles, Joe, etc, they were good then, but they're getting old.

Are you freaking serious Joe and Styles are in the same age range as Bryan and Punk.  In the last year TNA put over bobby Roode, Austin Aries (They're tag team run was funny as heck dirty heels FTW) Daniels and Kaz and Chris Sabin. Right now it looks like they're finally going to give Magnus a push.

One's getting the last push of his career and the other is getting pushed down the card.  Joe and Styles are going to be 40 really soon(Yes 4-5 years is soon), that's when you're career in wrestling starts turning to part time.  Roode got pushed down the card again (Seriously; why the hell is Bully Ray TNA champ instead of Roode, Joe, or Styles?), Kazarian and Daniel's have become Roode's bitch.  Chris Sabin just lost his title and he's not even in the title scene anymore?  WTF?  The problem is that TNA is not where they should be and these guy's are starting to get to the tail end of their careers.  Like, they can't make the same splash anymore like they did almost 10 years ago.  Plus they're slowing down.  For TNA to go anywhere right now they need fresh faces making the same splash that their veterans did back then.  This is the sole reason I like NXT right now over the rest.  Young guys making a name for themselves.  WWE has been a far more compelling product with the younger guys taking over the older guy's spots.



I Hope AJ Styles stays in TNA. He is my favourite wrestler in the industry (aj and samoa joe).


I dont really want to have to sit through Raw every week just to see him. I do have raw on FF every other week. Its improving but i still prefer TNA. So i want styles to stay there.



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darkknightkryta said:
SnakeDrake said:
darkknightkryta said:
Chandler said:

So what does everybody think about the whole Wyatt thing? I think they had a good thing and botched it hard. I don't know why, but that fake white LED lantern when they enter the arena pisses me off so much. It just ruins the whole thing for me. I thought it was for safety reasons but they lit up a real lantern after the ring of fire match with kane if I remember correctly.

 

Edit: Regarding TNA, I really like that they dropped that lone wolf/emo angle for Styles, I let out an audible "oh yeeeaahhh" when the music changed.

 

Edit2: I also like TNA more than WWE right now. Storylines on both companies are pretty retarded but Aj Styles, Austin Aries and Samoa Joe are amazing, probably my favorites right now. I need them to be in the same promotion as Daniels and Punk and it would be perfect. Throw in Kurt Angle as the legend / heel and Edge as GM and I would be in wrestling heaven.

 

I also want to give late props for the two Gail Kim / Taryn Terrell matches, they were really really good.

I like them.  They're like those hick killers who live in the forest in those movies that never actually get made, but get made fun of in comedies.  Though I think they're making Bray look too weak.  He needs to be better than his "family" yet he can't do anything without them.

I don't really like TNA right now; they have the talent but the entire company's a mess.  I facepalm everytime I see a skit from them.  Their skits are also very low in production values, it's like they change cameras for them.  Plus Bully Ray can't carry a company; he needs a better face to face him and TNA's faces are very lifeless.  Plus WWE has really picked up the wrestling recently; so TNA doesn't even have that to claim anymore.  TNA's current roster is getting old and they need some new faces to make a splash, much like their current roster did almost 10 years ago.  Styles, Joe, etc, they were good then, but they're getting old.

Are you freaking serious Joe and Styles are in the same age range as Bryan and Punk.  In the last year TNA put over bobby Roode, Austin Aries (They're tag team run was funny as heck dirty heels FTW) Daniels and Kaz and Chris Sabin. Right now it looks like they're finally going to give Magnus a push.

One's getting the last push of his career and the other is getting pushed down the card.  Joe and Styles are going to be 40 really soon(Yes 4-5 years is soon), that's when you're career in wrestling starts turning to part time.  Roode got pushed down the card again (Seriously; why the hell is Bully Ray TNA champ instead of Roode, Joe, or Styles?), Kazarian and Daniel's have become Roode's bitch.  Chris Sabin just lost his title and he's not even in the title scene anymore?  WTF?  The problem is that TNA is not where they should be and these guy's are starting to get to the tail end of their careers.  Like, they can't make the same splash anymore like they did almost 10 years ago.  Plus they're slowing down.  For TNA to go anywhere right now they need fresh faces making the same splash that their veterans did back then.  This is the sole reason I like NXT right now over the rest.  Young guys making a name for themselves.  WWE has been a far more compelling product with the younger guys taking over the older guy's spots.

And what have you seen from either AJ or Joe to indicate that either of them have lost anything in the ring? Kurt Angle is in his 40s, yet he can outwrestle most guys in his sleep. Let's not start putting guys' careers in the grave when we're years away from even having to think about it.

And I'm wondering where you think TNA should "be." If you mean competing with WWE on a serious basis, then stop waiting for it. Never gonna happen, at least not in our lifetimes. I think even TNA has accepted this and quit trying to establish itself as a competitor to WWE and more as a promotion that exists in its own vacuum.

If you mean it should be a financially viable company, then yeah, it has some things to work on. Cutting dead weight like Brooke Hogan was a good start (HOGAN, WE COMIN' FA U N***A!), and you'll notice that TNA has thankfully gotten less reliable on bringing in WWE rejects and well-past-ther-prime old legends (in place of them being these useless MMA guys that can't wrestle, but hopefully they go away after the big Bellator PPV).



burninmylight said:
darkknightkryta said:
SnakeDrake said:

One's getting the last push of his career and the other is getting pushed down the card.  Joe and Styles are going to be 40 really soon(Yes 4-5 years is soon), that's when you're career in wrestling starts turning to part time.  Roode got pushed down the card again (Seriously; why the hell is Bully Ray TNA champ instead of Roode, Joe, or Styles?), Kazarian and Daniel's have become Roode's bitch.  Chris Sabin just lost his title and he's not even in the title scene anymore?  WTF?  The problem is that TNA is not where they should be and these guy's are starting to get to the tail end of their careers.  Like, they can't make the same splash anymore like they did almost 10 years ago.  Plus they're slowing down.  For TNA to go anywhere right now they need fresh faces making the same splash that their veterans did back then.  This is the sole reason I like NXT right now over the rest.  Young guys making a name for themselves.  WWE has been a far more compelling product with the younger guys taking over the older guy's spots.

And what have you seen from either AJ or Joe to indicate that either of them have lost anything in the ring? Kurt Angle is in his 40s, yet he can outwrestle most guys in his sleep. Let's not start putting guys' careers in the grave when we're years away from even having to think about it.

And I'm wondering where you think TNA should "be." If you mean competing with WWE on a serious basis, then stop waiting for it. Never gonna happen, at least not in our lifetimes. I think even TNA has accepted this and quit trying to establish itself as a competitor to WWE and more as a promotion that exists in its own vacuum.

If you mean it should be a financially viable company, then yeah, it has some things to work on. Cutting dead weight like Brooke Hogan was a good start (HOGAN, WE COMIN' FA U N***A!), and you'll notice that TNA has thankfully gotten less reliable on bringing in WWE rejects and well-past-ther-prime old legends (in place of them being these useless MMA guys that can't wrestle, but hopefully they go away after the big Bellator PPV).

They're overall movements; they don't run in the ring nearly as fast.  Like they're not as fast paced as they used to be.

Kurt Angle was never a fast paced wrestler, he was always matt based which is less strenous on your body.  Plus Angle hasn't wrestled a match in a bit, I've seen him on Impact only to give promos.  Plus in general I think Angle is on his last legs.

Only thing I can look at is ratings and they're ratings are lower than they were when Cornette and Jerret were running things; so they're actually below where they used to be.  That's not progress.  No reason for them not to be getting close to 2.0 ratings.  Now they can barely manage 1.0.  As far as production and talent goes, where they are now is where they should have been before when most of their wrestlers were "hot".  Instead they relied on Hogan and the old guys.  On a tangent; TNA is currently doing what Heyman told told them to do all those years ago when they were in negotiations with him.

As I touched upon your last point in my previous paragraph; I agree with you.  The problem is that they should have been doing this years ago.  Taking the show on the road must have hurt them alot too.  Either that or Dixie Carter's parents stopped funding.



this was one of my Favorite TNA matches.