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BasilZero said:
amp316 said:
BasilZero said:

Winner: Dolph Ziggler

- After the match, Ziggler grabs the briefcase and celebrates in the ring with Vickie. We go to replays as Jericho recovers. Dolph runs around and poses on the turnbuckles as Jericho sits there. Jericho grabs the briefcase from Vickie and hits Dolph in the gut with it, then over the back. Jericho hits a Codebreaker and his music hits as Vickie yells at ringside. Jericho waves to the fans as we get another replay. Jericho shakes his head and greets a few fans at ringside on his way up the ramp. Jericho stops and looks back at the crowd as we go to a preview of The Day.

^ zzzzzzzzzzz so predictable

Yeah, I saw that.  The best wrestler in the company comes back to jbe a jobber and leave again...  What a weak show in general.  Every time that I tune into RAW to see if it doesnt suck, I get the answer that I don't want.  That answer would be "Yes, it sucks!"  

WCW at the very end of it's existence was more entertaining than this.  Just give the belt to David Arquette.   

Actually his win from the PPV last night made up for this imo.

Chris Jericho came back to help push forth the newer talent. Kudos to him imo compared to older superstars such as HHH.

But they could of done it a lot better, oh well at least it was better than being punt and put out for 2 years by Randy Orton XD.

fixed  :p



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BasilZero said:
amp316 said:
BasilZero said:
amp316 said:
BasilZero said:

 

Actually his win from the PPV last night made up for this imo.

Chris Jericho came back to help push forth the newer talent. Kudos to him imo compared to older superstars such as HHH.

But they could of done it a lot better, oh well at least it was better than being punt and put out for 2 years by Randy Orton XD.

fixed  :p

+1  I agree! I was surprised that HHH actually lost last night but still they pushed him at the end, he went out with the spotlight imo was a bad move and a result of his ego.

HHH never gets the other guy over.  Eveb when he loses he spends time getting himself over.  I remember th RAW after Wrestlemania.  No this one the one before.  It opened up with HHH talking for 15 minutes about what an epic war he and the Undertaker were in and made it sound like he won...

Jericho is maybe my favorite wrestler ever.  Why?  His awesome in ring ability, his mike skills, he's a fantastic heel, he's hilarious, he kicked the living crap out of Bill Goldberg backstage once, and that he is one of the best ever at getting people over and has no problem doing it.  I remember back in 2000 when Dean Malenko won wrestler of the year.  It should have been called the Chris Jericho got me over award.

Wrestling is in a sad state now.  A sad state. 



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amp316 said:
BasilZero said:
amp316 said:
BasilZero said:
amp316 said:
BasilZero said:

 

Actually his win from the PPV last night made up for this imo.

Chris Jericho came back to help push forth the newer talent. Kudos to him imo compared to older superstars such as HHH.

But they could of done it a lot better, oh well at least it was better than being punt and put out for 2 years by Randy Orton XD.

fixed  :p

+1  I agree! I was surprised that HHH actually lost last night but still they pushed him at the end, he went out with the spotlight imo was a bad move and a result of his ego.

HHH never gets the other guy over.  Eveb when he loses he spends time getting himself over.  I remember th RAW after Wrestlemania.  No this one the one before.  It opened up with HHH talking for 15 minutes about what an epic war he and the Undertaker were in and made it sound like he won...

Yeah, another good one like that was when he let sheamus win. 

It only took him gettin beat up 20 times before the match started, and barely being able to make it out to the ring for sheamus to win... and HHH still almost won that damn match.



Are they really doing a "Jealous because the fans love Cena" angle after just a few months ago acknowledging that in fact, the fans do NOT all love John Cena and having a whole storyline based around that?



BasilZero said:
Kasz216 said:
Are they really doing a "Jealous because the fans love Cena" angle after just a few months ago acknowledging that in fact, the fans do NOT all love John Cena and having a whole storyline based around that?


Yep, that is WWE Creative for you lol.


I mean... if anything i'd be surprised if the fans don't rally around punk.

 

I mean, the storyline is basically "Guy achieves the pinacle  accolade of the buisness but still isn't treated like the top guy."

That's something practically everybody goes through... and considering the fans know that they don't all love cena, and some know exactly who does... (upper management.)

In sane booking... Cena would be the heel.



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BasilZero said:
Kasz216 said:
BasilZero said:
Kasz216 said:
Are they really doing a "Jealous because the fans love Cena" angle after just a few months ago acknowledging that in fact, the fans do NOT all love John Cena and having a whole storyline based around that?


Yep, that is WWE Creative for you lol.


I mean... if anything i'd be surprised if the fans don't rally around punk.

 

I mean, the storyline is basically "Guy achieves the pinacle  accolade of the buisness but still isn't treated like the top guy."

That's something practically everybody goes through... and considering the fans know that they don't all love cena, and some know exactly who does... (upper management.)

In sane booking... Cena would be the heel.


Except that isnt gonna happen, fans may rally up with Punk just because of their hatred against Cena even if they dont like Punk. 

Management/Creative will continue to push Cena as the top guy due to the fact he's the face of the company, the hulk hogan that they lost during the 1990s to WCW but wont lose now (since no way in hell is Cena leaving for TNA especially with the amount of money he is making).

What made you think he'll go to TNA XD

 



 

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BasilZero said:
Kasz216 said:
BasilZero said:
Kasz216 said:
Are they really doing a "Jealous because the fans love Cena" angle after just a few months ago acknowledging that in fact, the fans do NOT all love John Cena and having a whole storyline based around that?


Yep, that is WWE Creative for you lol.


I mean... if anything i'd be surprised if the fans don't rally around punk.

 

I mean, the storyline is basically "Guy achieves the pinacle  accolade of the buisness but still isn't treated like the top guy."

That's something practically everybody goes through... and considering the fans know that they don't all love cena, and some know exactly who does... (upper management.)

In sane booking... Cena would be the heel.


Except that isnt gonna happen, fans may rally up with Punk just because of their hatred against Cena even if they dont like Punk. 

Management/Creative will continue to push Cena as the top guy due to the fact he's the face of the company, the hulk hogan that they lost during the 1990s to WCW but wont lose now (since no way in hell is Cena leaving for TNA especially with the amount of money he is making).


Oh definitly, which is why you solve the problem by not having this dumbass storyline.

If you want Cena to become champ, just do what they did back in the old days whenever they wanted to put the title on or off hogan.  Transition heel.



BasilZero said:
Kasz216 said:


Oh definitly, which is why you solve the problem by not having this dumbass storyline.

If you want Cena to become champ, just do what they did back in the old days whenever they wanted to put the title on or off hogan.  Transition heel.


Not gonna happen especially with all the international/market deals they made with several companies, for them it would take a big hit on merchandise and on public relations with those companies such as K-Mart or Walmart whoever they made a business deal with if they make Cena a heel, transition heel, or a tweener. 

 

I want them to make him a heel as well, but Cena's a bigger "face" than Hogan was, when I mean face, I mean good guy lol.

No no, that's not what he's saying.  He's saying that they take a heel, and put the title on him, just for Cena to take it from that heel.  I personally think that's a great idea, you'd get to push 4 guys that way.  Heel takes title from Punk.  Cena takes title from heel.  Punk and heel fued.  Cena and another heel fued.  You'll have two stories going on at the upper card.



BasilZero said:
Kasz216 said:


Oh definitly, which is why you solve the problem by not having this dumbass storyline.

If you want Cena to become champ, just do what they did back in the old days whenever they wanted to put the title on or off hogan.  Transition heel.


Not gonna happen especially with all the international/market deals they made with several companies, for them it would take a big hit on merchandise and on public relations with those companies such as K-Mart or Walmart whoever they made a business deal with if they make Cena a heel, transition heel, or a tweener. 

 

I want them to make him a heel as well, but Cena's a bigger "face" than Hogan was, when I mean face, I mean good guy lol.

When I said Transition heel, what I meant was a transition champion heel.

Like back in the day, whenever they wanted to take the title off hogan or some main draw they'd have some heel win the championship by cheap means, defend it a couple timse by cheap means on TV or a paperview, then have the new champ be the new challenger and win the title at the next PPV.

Sid Vicious is a good example.  WWE Champ twice, was only champ for a total of 3 months.

Iron Sheik is an even better one.  Ended Bob Backlunds 5 year title reign to lose to Hogan in a match like less then a month later.

Have Punk lose the belt to someone like Cody Rhodes or Swagger through tricky means, cheat to win the "Official Rematch"  have Cena take the belt... then have Punk go after Rhodes for the losses.



creative sucks balls...there are literally dozens of ways to make these feuds better.



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