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Killergran on 22 August 2009

^ Then what were you thinking?



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Manos on 22 August 2009
Killergran said:
^ Then what were you thinking?

Sorry. Can't answer that because I would be banned if I did that.



Mummelmann on 22 August 2009

So, Nintendo fans love saying "Hah! Nintendo is outselling both HD consoles combined!" but others can't say that "Hah! The HD consoles are outselling the Wii!"
What's the difference?
Lots of sour grapes in here.



Killergran on 22 August 2009
bardicverse said:

Once the devs and publishers see that they can put out quick, easy games and cash in, you'll see less devotion to the core market. The only way that this won't happen is if the HD gamers don't embrace Natal or PS3 motion, and the devices flop.

It's always much easier to make money if you have little competition. The more competition you get, the more your product has to appeal to your potential customers. So more developers making quick cash-ins means every developer needs to work harder on their quick cash-in to make a profit.

Look at PopCap Games, for instance. The PC platform had casual players long before the consoles did. The competition there is such that you just simply cannot release any crap and expect to walk away with a massive profit. Yet PopCap Games release one massive hit after another. How can that be? Quality and appeal, I believe would be the answer. The games are good and they really appeal to people.

We'll get there on consoles as well, in the future. Don't worry.



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atma998 on 22 August 2009
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atma998 said:
At this point I'm glad to see that :

X360 - 31.410.000
PS3 - 23.240.000
PSP - 50.900.000


TOTAL - 105.550.000

Wii - 52.510.000
DS - 108.730.000
TOTAL - 161.240.000

Considering that the audience for 360, PS3 and PSP are pretty much the same, I'm glad that Nintendo is easily beating the competition. :P

if you gonna count the systems released before PS360 and wii, why dont you include the PS2?

Because those are the main seventh generation systems-both console and portable.

so DS and PSP are next gen? they were launched in 2004, lol


DS and PSP were released in late 2004/early 2005 (late 2005 for PSP in Europe), X360 was released in late 2005 too. Now please stop humiliating yourself.

NEXT gen starts when the console (or handheld) with better graphics than ALL last gen consoles is launched (like 360 in december 2005). Since PS2 has slightly better graphics than PSP and much better graphics than DS, DS and PSP are not next gen, more like 6.5 gen

You have an interesting definition of what a generation of console is.. lol Hopefully, VGChartz doesnt think like you. Whetever you try to spin the numbers, Nintendo win anyway.

i dont. i just said when the next generation is beggining. And add PS2 to your numbers and Nintendo will get its ass kicked hard

No, Wii+DS+GBA+GC (gen 6 + gen 7) is ­bigger than PS2+PS3+PSP (gen 6 + gen 7). Sorry.

yeah that's fair. compare 4 systems with 3 systems

Ok I will compare 2 systems vs. 3 systems instead : Wii + DS > PS3 + PSP + X360. But that's unfair... I know!



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Khuutra on 22 August 2009
Mummelmann said:
So, Nintendo fans love saying "Hah! Nintendo is outselling both HD consoles combined!" but others can't say that "Hah! The HD consoles are outselling the Wii!"
What's the difference?
Lots of sour grapes in here.

Well, the second statement is untrue. The HD twins are not outselling the Wii. They do have a higher installbase, though.



Mummelmann on 22 August 2009
Khuutra said:
Mummelmann said:
So, Nintendo fans love saying "Hah! Nintendo is outselling both HD consoles combined!" but others can't say that "Hah! The HD consoles are outselling the Wii!"
What's the difference?
Lots of sour grapes in here.

Well, the second statement is untrue. The HD twins are not outselling the Wii. They do have a higher installbase, though.

By and large, yes. But they did outsell it for a few weeks and probably will for the rest of the year with both the 360 and PS3 getting price drops. My point still stands though, its one of those Vgchartz arguments that seem only to go one way for some reason.



Killergran on 22 August 2009
Mummelmann said:

By and large, yes. But they did outsell it for a few weeks and probably will for the rest of the year with both the 360 and PS3 getting price drops. My point still stands though, its one of those Vgchartz arguments that seem only to go one way for some reason.

I'd say it's pretty much because of the 2 vs 1 thing. Two big strong guys beating up a tiny one isn't really something you gloat about, while if that tiny guy kicks the shit out of the big dudes there will be lots of gloating.



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Mummelmann on 22 August 2009
Killergran said:
Mummelmann said:

By and large, yes. But they did outsell it for a few weeks and probably will for the rest of the year with both the 360 and PS3 getting price drops. My point still stands though, its one of those Vgchartz arguments that seem only to go one way for some reason.

I'd say it's pretty much because of the 2 vs 1 thing. Two big strong guys beating up a tiny one isn't really something you gloat about, while if that tiny guy kicks the shit out of the big dudes there will be lots of gloating.

I can't really argue with that but this gen has seen a kind of HD grouping versus non-HD grouping. It is a tremedous achievement to outsell two competitors combined (at least it used to) but it is relevant for the marketshare to count both in some cases. All three consoles should, naturally, be counted individually and there's no way of spinning away the truth; the Wii has a massive lead and nothing save for the hand of God can make a big difference at this point.



mhsillen on 22 August 2009
Black RL said:

Hi people

At this point I'm glad to see that:

360     - 31.410.000
PS3     - 23.240.000
TOTAL - 54.650.000

Wii      - 52.510.000

Considering that the audience for 360 and PS3 are pretty much the same, I'm glad that the Wii is being beated.

Why? Because I don't want the future of video games to be Wii-like. I don't mind Wii or NINTENDO, I don't mind it all, they can get all they money they want, I don't care, no problem.

But I don't want the future of video-games to be that, I'm glad HD gaming is already winning. I was really afraid that every publisher looked at the Wii like the ONLY example to follow. We, the ones that buy HD games are proving that there's more to games than the Wii.

You make it sound like the big N did have 50% market share, but they have not.

But it has been getting there as 49% is the high water mark.

So the big N still might "beated" the hd twins.

By the way nintendo came in 3rd last gen against 2 other systems, i didn't realize that nintendo had to beat the combined sales of 2 other systems to win this gen.

Bulls.t aside nintendo has a lock on this gen so deal with it hd babys