im pretty sure they have some moves of their own coming up
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| MidnightRider85 said: What's up with Microsoft? Where is the Microsoft that showed Final Fantasy XIII at E3 2008? It used to seem like they had their act together, but now how do they counter news of a big Sony pricedrop at Gamecon and show the world that the 360 is still the firebreathing monster of the hd console world? They don't. They don't announce a pricedrop of their own (as a matter of fact they announce a price increase in the UK). They don't announce that they have gained rights to yet another vaunted PS3 game. They just send Molyneaux out to talk about Fable III which just sounds like a more realistic Little King's Story. No additional footage of Halo: Reach looking better than Killzone 2, no Gears of War 3 footage, no we've secured worldwide publishing rights to Final Fantasy Versus XIII or our version of FFXIII will release day and date with the PS3 version in Japan. Nothing. They don't even recind the 360's price increase in the UK. I think the quandry they find themselves in now can be traced back to the very E3 where they announced that they were getting FFXIII. If you look at that press conference in retrospect, a huge proprtion of it was taken up with things like Mii's, 1 vs. 100, and an attempt to begin to make their game linup more casual. This continued through this year's E3 with the announcement of Project Natal. I think Microsoft thought that by getting FFXIII (even though not in Japan) that they would suddenly do away with all competition with PS3 and had decided to start to focus their efforts on competition with the Wii. However, the 360 was never going to have the casual appeal of the Wii. At the same time, the crew at Sony seem to have rededicated themselves to more than ever before bringing out the best pure games on the market Uncharted II, Ratchet and Clank Future 2, GT5, Final Fantasy XIII's Japanese release date as a PS3 exclusive are all set for later this year while most of the 360's big games have all been pushed back out of the holiday season and even with its developers saying Alan Wake is complete they say that they still have to polish it until Spring 2010 before they can release it. It appears that Microsoft has dropped the ball.
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So Microsoft dropped the ball because they didn't do anything you thought they would do? They atleast need to see what Sony's pricedrop will do before reacting. If you look at current sales the 360 is up big overall, so Sony would need to put up Wii-like numbers to catch up.
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| MidnightRider85 said:
Actually Sony cut the 360's lead to close to 5 million in 2008. |
So? The 360 increased it's lead to over 8 million since. It's a see saw, sometimes you're down, sometimes your up. Til....hmmm let's see, at least next August, the PS3 will probably be up and so the 360 lead will shrink to maybe 5-6 million again, then MS will respond and bam, back up to 8 million and most likely 9. Biggest lead so far so late in this generation.
The real commoddity is time.
3 years ago - PS3 was 5.5 million behind
2 years ago - PS3 was 7.2 million behind
1 year ago - PS3 was 5.6-ish million behind
Today they are 8.something millions behind/
That's 3 years wasted, no ground gained overall whatsoever. Just $4.2 billion in the hole and an even bigger gap.
| MidnightRider85 said:
And even after one substantial price cut that made the Arcade model cheaper than the Wii in Others, the PS3 was still beating the 360 there by 20,000+ a week until Microsoft was so embarrased by the situation that they had to cut the Arcade's price even more (to half the PS3's cost) to be able to be ahead of the PS3 and in most weeks since then they've only been able to eke out the slimmest of margins over PS3 there (9,000 last week at half the cost, etc). |
In a war of attritution, Sony loses. They're already last, there's never been less time and there's never been a larger gap. Even if these desperate moves buy them 3 million more consoles over the next 12 months, they'll only be in the same position as they were 2 years ago (last year) with MS in the financial position to undercut them just as they did last year, while they have to sit there while they try to plug the heomoragging cash.
But TBH 360 will be entering its 6th year at that time, quite frankly, if you can't accept its over by then, it's just sad.
Microsoft is a Loser at GamesCom =(
Sony was very good. Nice games, new games and ps3 price cut + ps3 slim.
GamesCom is great =)
the best RPG's are coming 2013 !!!! oh my god, this is perfect for RPG-GAMER = ) Ni No Kuni - 25 january, Time and Eternity, tales of xillia (PS3) and the maybe best game ever: metal gear solid ground zero
Who cares, Gamescom isn't on the level of E3
Why would MS want to drop their price. If they just Drop the price to counter Sonys price cut it may look bad for them when they have to raise the price on the new xbox bundled with natal that is released in the next 6 to 12 months. I think they will try and hover around their current pricepoint as long as possible or as close to the Natal launch as possible.
I believe they are dropping the Pro model to set the stage for a 3 sku setup (like they have now). Acrade, Elite and Natal model. Eventually the price points will probably be around $149 arcade, $249 Elite and $299 Natal.
MS does not believe their 8mil lead will be wiped out over one holiday seaseon and are setting up next year as a huge run.
Also expect to see HD price around $99 and Natal around $99 at this time. (maybe a bit more or less depending) The pricing would fit this making someone buying an elite or arcade pay $349 for a fully equiped box while the value would be buying the natal version and saving an extra $50 by getting it all up front.
Thats my take on it anyways
What's up with trolls?
Is this typical post conference behavior?
| Crashdown77 said: What's up with trolls? Is this typical post conference behavior? |
Very much so.
So what Sony did better at Gamecom and is growing a fanbase every gen. I think there doing just fine and there Gamescom is great.
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