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Forums - General - Man carries assault rifle to Obama protest -- and it's legal

dtewi said:
sguy78 said:
dtewi said:
TheRealMafoo said:
I will answer you dtewi,

The Constitution give the people the right to bear arms. it's very clear. To do so, is doing nothing wrong.

I can't find anywhere in the constitution, even before any amendments, that say it's OK to own slaves. Mind pointing out where it says so?


It may not have been constitutional law, but it was in the law. I was using it to point out sguy's flawed argument, but never mind that now.

I didn't say it was wrong to bear arms, I'm saying that it is mind-bendingly stupid to carry an assault rifle just because you can. No purposed is served, and it rather destroys the public image of owning arms.

I had no flawed argument. You are just looking for a fight on the internet that you wouldn't dare do in  person. You need to learn some tact.

Oh my god, will you quit your damn bitching? Would it make you feel better if I said you were right? Congratulations, you're right, I'm a jerk, I put words in your mouth, and now we can both shut the hell up.

I'm not bitching. I don't attack other people's views and look for fights. You need to grow up.



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Another example of a mind-bending stupid thing to do that's not wrong.

A black man going to a KKK rally to exercise free speech... alone. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it's a stupid thing to do.



TheRealMafoo said:
superchunk said:
TheRealMafoo said:
I will answer you dtewi,

The Constitution give the people the right to bear arms. it's very clear. To do so, is doing nothing wrong.

I can't find anywhere in the constitution, even before any amendments, that say it's OK to own slaves. Mind pointing out where it says so?

dtewi's point isn't wether or not it is legal or part of the constitution, etc.

Just asking if it makes any sense what so ever, and it doesn't.

If you want to protest the President at some rally for any particular view, that's fine. Just do it respectively.

So, was this guy breaking any law, no. Was this disrespectful and over the line, yes.

Same would be to bring a jar that looked like a dead cut up fetus with a label that read 'baby john doe' to protest Obama's stance on abortion. Is it legal, sure, is it the best way to protest, no. Is it disrespectful and over the line, yes.

Personally, I like our gun rights, but I don't think we need assault rifles. If that's allowed, then why not rocket launchers and other missile type projectiles? We have to draw the line somewhere and military grade weapons are definitely over the line.

This guy simply looked like a typical redneck idiot who probably wants to marry his cousin and fish with dynamite.

That's different, unless you think a automatic weapon and a cut up fetus in a jar are equally offensive.

The only way it's in bad taste imo, is if he was implying he wanted to do Obama harm with it. If he is just demonstrating his right, while it's a stupid thing to do, there is nothing wrong with it.

Now we're just going around in circles.



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TheRealMafoo said:
Another example of a mind-bending stupid thing to do that's not wrong.

A black man going to a KKK rally to exercise free speech... alone. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it's a stupid thing to do.

Or just the KKK itself. Free speech, but damn idiotic bigots.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

TheRealMafoo said:

That's different, unless you think a automatic weapon and a cut up fetus in a jar are equally offensive.

The only way it's in bad taste imo, is if he was implying he wanted to do Obama harm with it. If he is just demonstrating his right, while it's a stupid thing to do, there is nothing wrong with it.

Yes my fetus analogy was extreme, it still isn't inherently right to bring an assault rifle near the president just to make a point. To me, that is overly aggresive and more than stupid.

To me, its just too much firepower to allow at a rally where many people could be harmed if his intent was not peaceful. He could cause far more damage with that than and ordinary firearm.

I tend to think about the possible ramifications if the worst case scenario played out. The potential harm far outwieghs any potential gain by this person demonstrating his rights.

If I were the police I would have asked it he could possibly not remain at the rally with that weapon. If it were possible that he return with a smaller gun to demonstrate with. If he said no it was his right, then I would thank him for considering it and simply keep officers within sight at all times.



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dtewi said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Another example of a mind-bending stupid thing to do that's not wrong.

A black man going to a KKK rally to exercise free speech... alone. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it's a stupid thing to do.

Or just the KKK itself. Free speech, but damn idiotic bigots.

Agreed. :)



Personally I don't see why you guys are so protective of your gun rights. I mean what is the point of being allowed to carry weapons around? I can see an argument for being allowed to keep guns for home defense but being able to carry an assault weapon around is hardly home defense is it?

Is there any possible practical argument that being allowed to carry an assault weapon (or indeed any weapon bigger than a handgun) around legally?

It seems entirely moronic to me that this is legal.


*Note: I disagree with being able to carry even handguns around, but thats a different kettle of fish*



To sum up 35 posts in an easy and memorable way:
It's legal but going too far.



He did nothing wrong. It is his right. Yes it was stupid and in bad taste but you take the good you take the bad and there you have the facts of politics. Minus all the good.



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Rath said:
Personally I don't see why you guys are so protective of your gun rights. I mean what is the point of being allowed to carry weapons around? I can see an argument for being allowed to keep guns for home defense but being able to carry an assault weapon around is hardly home defense is it?

Is there any possible practical argument that being allowed to carry an assault weapon (or indeed any weapon bigger than a handgun) around legally?

It seems entirely moronic to me that this is legal.


*Note: I disagree with being able to carry even handguns around, but thats a different kettle of fish*

A different what?

Well, there are certain benefits to being able to carry a handgun. What if someone has a knife and threatens to stab you and you left your life at home? Well, take out your gun and use it like a knife.

In all seriousness, if someone is threatening your life, it would be good to have a handgun (not an assault rifle) in that situation.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you