The important question for Selnor is:

does this mean that we'll see less of your "Guys look at these screenshots/ this trailer, this is clearly the best graphic ever" (TM) threads? :)

I hope so.  I think Selnor has finally had a break through.

Pretty much. I always knew it anyway. Generally rthe best videos are the ones Not official but from actual people who own the game.

But not to the scale of GT5 E3 trailer thats what he meant. GT5P gameplay and replays look entirely different. Both in resolution and in frames per sec. more motion blur added as well as the other effects he mentions. Basically it's far from what you actually see.

Forza 3 Screenshots and Videos. We released a generous helping of Forza Motorsport 3 screenshots and videos this week. If you haven't seen them yet, go check 'em out in our Media Gallery. There are some things you should know about these screenshots. First of all, at Turn 10, we don't bullshot -- which means everything you see here is real-time taken from in-game gameplay. The E3 batch was taken back in early May, and given how the development process works, the game is improving just about daily, so the bottomline is that these screenshots are from a work-in-progress. Naturally, the game will actually look better by the time it comes out later this fall. The reason why you might have mistaken these screenshots as faked, touched-up, or embellished art is because Forza 3 is an exceedingly gorgeous game.

There's really no bigger graphics junkie than myself at Turn 10 and I'm constantly surprised by just how insanely next generation the game looks from a visual standpoint. Not only have the cars themselves gotten much more detailed, our 100+ tracks in the game provide some truly inspired locales to fuel your car passion. Much of the leap in graphical fidelity with Forza 3 was made possible by our game engine developers, whom, in the early days (think summer of 2007) set out to rebuild a new renderer and content pipeline for Forza 3. So just like before, Forza 3 runs at a glassy smooth 60 frames-per-second, with our physics calculating underneath the hood at a much higher framerate. New shaders and tech puts the finishing touches on an already handsome Forza Motorsport 2. Likewise, with the gameplay video, everything was captured in-game with no faked CG whatsoever. At Turn 10, we don't do bullshots.

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/pitpass1.htm

Official website. This being written on there means if they did post bullshots they can be sued for millions for false advertisement.

motion blur its not a heavy effect, any PC with shaders can do it. GT 5 E3 its a combination of rendered engine work and gameplay.

why i know this? i played prologue.

GT replay move downgrade to 30fps but still is 1080p , still is engine work rendered using the console real time.

Its funny that you keep posting bullshit in just about every thread you enter Selnor.  You have never played GT5p, or else you would know that the replay mode and the game you play are almost exact copies of each other.  There has also been countless game shots posted on the forums that show replay and game mode side by side and they are almost impossible to tell apart.

The whole article is nonsense and can be seen by them never playing games, they post links to some of the worst screenshots of GT PSP i have ever seen which look so much worse then the game being played on the PSP.

They also go on to blast Halo3 and post the worst screen shots i have ever seen for the game, and try to say the shots used by Bungie or the shots on their site are fake and no way is what gamers see on their TV.  Halo3 looks the same on my Tv as the shots put out by Bungie or the ones taken by their players through the Bungie site.

Their are also many gamers who play on better Tv's then me and the screenshots they post look by far much better then anything the media puts out.  Have you seen games being played on the Pioneer Plasma's or the high end LED tv's, then you would be able to see how this article is shit.

He doesn't seem to know what a bullshot is. He just said there was no faked CGI, and it was all in game. Which is true. That doesn't mean they're not bullshots, did you read the article you posted?

Did you miss this info here?

As I said, false advertisment if they are lying. They state it has NOT been touched up in any way.

Wow to this thread!  There's quite alot of FUD going around.