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Exblackman on 16 August 2009
Simulacrum said:
Maybe, we have soon Wii Fps,Mario of War and ZeldaZone?

Sales speak from themselves.But Conduit was BAD game.It ain't anything that Fps fans must own.
Even most of Wii users must have played Fps games on Ps2 or Pc..(I HOPE)
And if you compare Conduit to Fps games of Ps2 (Red Faction etc) it ain't so diffrent.
And if you have played Half Life or Counter Strike or even new games like Cod 4 on Pc...

But, if they start make more games like Madworld...We will see what the truth about Wii:s core gamers really is.But when?I can't name but No more heroes 2.

Red Steel 2, Silent Hill:Shattered memories,TMNT Smash Up,etc I could name more if you want.



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salaminizer on 16 August 2009

The Conduit is rated T for Teens.



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Craan on 16 August 2009

More insightful analysis from Patcher.



Soundwave on 16 August 2009

Third parties haven't made any big-scale, well marketed "core" games on the Wii.

Resident Evil 4, RE: Umbrella Chronicles, and Monster Hunter 3 are the only three, and those have sold reasonably well.

Why should a Wii owner buy a middle-of-the-road title like The Conduit? Just because its a FPS? 

Things like Madworld and Little King's Story are fairly high quality, but they're not very mass market friendly. Those games would flop on the 360 or PS3, those just aren't mainstream enough of ideas.

Put a Final Fantasy Dissidia game on the Wii. Kingdom Hearts. How about a real Resident Evil exclusive or Resident Evil FPS? A really good Star Wars game with WM+. Why not a real Soul Calibur game with WM+? I think you'll see better sales. These would sell. Red Steel 2 will sell if it's a good game. 



Simulacrum on 16 August 2009
Exblackman said:
Simulacrum said:
Maybe, we have soon Wii Fps,Mario of War and ZeldaZone?

Sales speak from themselves.But Conduit was BAD game.It ain't anything that Fps fans must own.
Even most of Wii users must have played Fps games on Ps2 or Pc..(I HOPE)
And if you compare Conduit to Fps games of Ps2 (Red Faction etc) it ain't so diffrent.
And if you have played Half Life or Counter Strike or even new games like Cod 4 on Pc...

But, if they start make more games like Madworld...We will see what the truth about Wii:s core gamers really is.But when?I can't name but No more heroes 2.

Red Steel 2, Silent Hill:Shattered memories,TMNT Smash Up,etc I could name more if you want.

I don't know have I missed something but why people bring up Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Anyway, confirmed AAA titles?



 

 

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griffinA on 16 August 2009
Simulacrum said:
Exblackman said:
Simulacrum said:
Maybe, we have soon Wii Fps,Mario of War and ZeldaZone?

Sales speak from themselves.But Conduit was BAD game.It ain't anything that Fps fans must own.
Even most of Wii users must have played Fps games on Ps2 or Pc..(I HOPE)
And if you compare Conduit to Fps games of Ps2 (Red Faction etc) it ain't so diffrent.
And if you have played Half Life or Counter Strike or even new games like Cod 4 on Pc...

But, if they start make more games like Madworld...We will see what the truth about Wii:s core gamers really is.But when?I can't name but No more heroes 2.

Red Steel 2, Silent Hill:Shattered memories,TMNT Smash Up,etc I could name more if you want.

I don't know have I missed something but why people bring up Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Anyway, confirmed AAA titles?

First, What definition of AAA are we talking about?

 

I would consider Silent Hill, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter 3, Muramasa, Tales of Graces, and The Crystal Bearers to be AAA third party games. Some of them might not be able to get the 90+ rating on metacritic for it however. Then again, if we go by the metacritic definition, Resident Evil 5 wasn't a AAA title.



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the_bloodwalker on 16 August 2009

Many third part companies want Nintendo to give the importance to their games like Microsoft and Sony does (even though those games ended up being crap *cough... Lair.... Haze.... Too human....cough*). Nintendo only does that if: the game is full of quality and it has the potential to sell hardware



mike_intellivision on 16 August 2009

OK ... I think Pachter has crossed himself up this time.

A lot of what he said depends on the core Wii audience also being a multiple console audience. That is not necessarily true. So his statement does not ring true.

Of course, not ringing true is nothing new for Pacther.

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Simulacrum on 16 August 2009
griffinA said:
Simulacrum said:
Exblackman said:
Simulacrum said:
Maybe, we have soon Wii Fps,Mario of War and ZeldaZone?

Sales speak from themselves.But Conduit was BAD game.It ain't anything that Fps fans must own.
Even most of Wii users must have played Fps games on Ps2 or Pc..(I HOPE)
And if you compare Conduit to Fps games of Ps2 (Red Faction etc) it ain't so diffrent.
And if you have played Half Life or Counter Strike or even new games like Cod 4 on Pc...

But, if they start make more games like Madworld...We will see what the truth about Wii:s core gamers really is.But when?I can't name but No more heroes 2.

Red Steel 2, Silent Hill:Shattered memories,TMNT Smash Up,etc I could name more if you want.

I don't know have I missed something but why people bring up Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Anyway, confirmed AAA titles?

First, What definition of AAA are we talking about?

 

I would consider Silent Hill, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter 3, Muramasa, Tales of Graces, and The Crystal Bearers to be AAA third party games. Some of them might not be able to get the 90+ rating on metacritic for it however. Then again, if we go by the metacritic definition, Resident Evil 5 wasn't a AAA title.

None of those are confirmed.

And res 5 wasnt AAA title.

And most of those titles will be 99% medicore titles.I always end up saying same stuff for same games that they bring up..graah.

I'm talking about titles that you know will be good.Above 85 metacritic at least.



 

 

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ganondorf7799 on 16 August 2009

The problem is that Nintendo make the best games and that most 3rd party games are not even comming close to games from Nintendo.