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Analyst Michael Pachter says Core gamers who own a Wii only interested in first party core games.

The whole core games issue rears its ugly head again and probably won’t ever go away again. Webush Morgan analyst, Michael Pachter has said in a new interview that the audience of core gamers on the Wii are only interested in core games made by Nintendo. He says while games like The Conduit did a decent enough job, that it and games targeted to that audience will never sell unless they are made by Nintendo and that’s why they are not selling well.

Here is the entire question posed to Pachter;

IG:  With mature titles like The Conduit and others released on Wii with less than stellar sales numbers, do you believe there’s enough of a core audience on Wii for third parties to even bother with?

Pachter: 
Good question, and I’m going to take some heat for my answer. The “core” Wii audience is a Mario/Zelda/Smash Bros./Metroid audience, not a Conduit audience. To the extent that the Wii is the only console that the core gamer owns, it’s likely because the only games he/she cares about are first party core titles. Most core Wii owners who care about shooter games other than Metroid already own an Xbox 360 (to play Halo or Gears), or own a PS3 (to play Resistance or Killzone). So when a game like The Conduit comes out on the Wii, these core gamers are making a comparison to Halo or Killzone, and are deciding accordingly. High Voltage did a decent job with The Conduit, especially given the graphic limitations of the Wii, but the game didn’t look and feel as good as games like Halo or Killzone, and if a gamer had both a Wii and either a PS3 or Xbox 360, it’s easy to see why they would pass on The Conduit in favor of a hard core game on one of the other platforms.

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He answers a couple other questions within the source, including what he thinks of Best Buy's price for new games matching GameStop's used game prices and even gives his good gold oppinion on the PS3 Slim.

On topic: I care, watch and buy third party games for Nintendo consoles and have done for a long time, but then again, i'm a multi-console owner so maybe i don't count. I do however know a number of individuals who are "Wii only" gamers but also buy third party software...



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I am so tired of hearing about this guy.



I'm a wii only gamer who buys third-party titles. Actually, this year I will only be buying third-party titles.



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"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."

Actually, Core Wii audience buy all the good exclusives they can get for that console. It just happens that most first party titles > third party titles.



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SHMUPGurus said:

Actually, Core Wii audience buy all the good exclusives they can get for that console. It just happens that most first party titles > third party titles.

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I am so tired of hearing about this guy.
I think it's rather funny actually. Just when you think you've gone a whole week without his voice, he pops up again like an unwanted blister.

I'm a wii only gamer who buys third-party titles. Actually, this year I will only be buying third-party titles.
No no no, this doesn't add up at all. Pachter says solo Wii gamers only want FIRST party games. You've distorted the very fabric of time and space!



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What SHUMP said.

I actually haven't bough third party stuff besides World of goo yet...

this year will change that, though.



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I'm a core Wii owner, and despite owning a 360 as well, I've found the time to buy World of Goo, LostWinds, Resi 4: Wii Edition, Okami, No More Heroes and Little King's Story. The reason these don't post strong sales (with the exception of Resi) is because they're niche titles. Even saying that, NMH has sold well enough to warrant a sequel.

Perhaps most 3rd party offerings simply haven't had the quality, accessibility and appeal that Nintendo's 1st party efforts have. It's up to third parties to make those kinds of games. I honestly expected more to turn up this year, with so few Nintendo first party titles out. Though the 3rd party line up for the next few months is pretty good, actually.

They may have a tough time competing with Nintendo's line up next year, though.



Its that 3rd parties are making it easy for Nintendo. But to be honest if i had a Wii all the games i would get for it at the moment is Nintendo games. They are just so good compared to the 3rd parties.



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Killzone 2. its not a fps. it a FIRST PERSON WAR SIMULATOR!!!! ..The true PLAYSTATION 3 launch date and market dominations is SEP 1st

he is probably looking at madworld and some other core games, like the conduit.

he is not right though, but core that buy third party it's smaller than ps3 or 360 even split.