We're still talking about this?

No, but some old bald guy with a webcam is.

to be fair, he has his girlfriend with him too :)

LMAO.

could be his sister or friend lol

I tend to believe that adopting sound logic wins over more people onto your side of an argument.

I think it would be unreasonable to say the man is adopting logic, but if he is, it is anything but sound.

@starcraft
what points do you think, specifically, are invalid or illogical?

It seems pretty straightforward to me. I think the whole argument hinges on whether or not MS would allow a newly acquired big name competitor multiplat to require a mandatory install.

If so, then the game could potentially be on 2-3 discs (with compression) if MS also waives the mandatory space for protection, or whatever that thing was he was talking about.

Is it just me or this guy is too stupod to actually lisent to him for more than 2 minutes

First, let us apply some context.  Watch some of this guy's other videos and you will find that they exist solely for the purpose of supporting the PS3, however irrationally, too the exclusion of all other consoles.  He is by every definition of the word, a fanboy.  He does not even trouble to hide this, routinely using words like "xbot" to attack anyone who disagrees with him.  He also highly augments any set of facts in order to twist them in favour of the PS3.  For example, when creating a list of high-scoring exclusives for a comparison, his rules were:

1.  Must be completely system exclusive (and yet, he was comparing ONLY the three consoles, the PC was not listed as a viable gaming alternative).

2.  Must be released in the United States.

3.  Must score higher than 9 on IGN.  ONLY IGN.  No other source, not Metacritic, not some aggregate, only IGN.

He also appears to be quite unintelligent.  He compiled a video attacking Metacritic (which a lot of PS3 fanboys do) for having slightly different Metascores for the same game across the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions.  He simply added the scores together and averaged them.  If he had taken ONE moment to read Metacritic's methodology, he would realise that they weight their scores according to gaming site's prestige and credibility.  Instead of actually doing any research however, he assumed that a well-enshrined website with competant algorithims that has actually been quoted by the big three in NPD reports had made a simple math error.

So now that we have context, lets evaluate the current video.  I havent watched it since the thread came out, and wont again, so bare with me if I get details wrong.  First of all I would like to agree that MGS4 will not come to the Xbox 360.  But the reasons are these:

1.  Sony have signed (what was no doubt very expensive) exclusivity contracts with Konami.

2.  This far down the line, the game wouldn't be bought in sufficient numbers on a new console anyway.

Now here is what's wrong with his reasoning:

1.  There is no evidence that MGS4 is 50GB, simply that it is more than 25GB.  Kojima confirmed a dual-layered disc, not a full dual-layered disc.

2.  It is common knowledge amongst those who are versed in these topics that most high-graphics PS3 games have data re-used on Blu-Ray discs to compensate for lower maximum read times.  This is something the Xbox 360 doesn't need to do and on a large game like MGS4 could account for many, many GB's of data. 

3.  MGS4 is NOT compressed as is.  In fact it is much touted for having uncompressed 7.1 audio (something only a tiny proportion of the population can use).  On Heavenly Sword for example, audio alone took up 10GB according too the developers, and MGS4 is about 5-9 times the length of that game.  The audio of MGS4 compressed could literally save (and here I am speculating) over a dozen GB's of space.

So suddenly we are looking at a game that (while no doubt requiring more than one disc) may only be around 10-20GB on the Xbox 360, as opposed to up to 50GB (but probably much less) on the PS3. 

But there is a very simple way to prove this guys is talking absolute crap, and he provides it himself.  FFXIII.  By all accounts, this game was going to be HUGE (before going multiplatform this was always touted by PS3 fans as a reason it could NOT come to the Xbox 360).  For at least two (but probably more) years it was developed with ONLY the PS3 in mind.  FFXIII as a basic file will probably be much larger than MGS4 was.  And yet it will ship on no more than four DVD9's.  This will immediately and comprehensively debunk what this idiot is saying.

I should clarify for those who didn't watch the video, the guy reckons MGS4 on Xbox 360 would take 17, that's SEVENTEEN, discs.