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Maynard_Tool on 12 August 2009
digitalentourage said:
It's a bomb because it failed to meet the expectations of the developers and retailers. This is a big thing. They shipped 1million units, do you people not understand that if it does not sell over 70k next week that it may _never_ sell its first shipment? That's not good.

It's not a bomb based on its sales. Its sales are fine, I'm sure capcom will not loose too much money on the game and possibly pull a little profit as it itches closer to 1m.

Monster hunter has had crazy success in japan, the last game sold almost 3.6m units (and its heavily under tracked in Americas/Others on a platform that is supposedly DEAD.

success in general, yes. success as a monster hunter title, no. success in the eyes of developers/retailers? absolutely not, it is a failure.

You don't even know how it works, this is unbeliavable. Capcom doesn't ship the units they want, but the units they are asked for. You as a retailer, ask for X copies of the game. Capcom doesn't tell you "here, you're getting X numbers of copies"

You should stop posting here, b/c you keep losing credibility in every single post. Just drop it man.



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ClaudeLv250 on 12 August 2009

I think it's time to start getting mods in here. It's pretty obvious people screaming "BOMBOMBOMBOMB!11111" and making up shit about "many" retailers are just trolling while they can.



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sc94597 on 12 August 2009
digitalentourage said:
It's a bomb because it failed to meet the expectations of the developers and retailers. This is a big thing. They shipped 1million units, do you people not understand that if it does not sell over 70k next week that it may _never_ sell its first shipment? That's not good.

It's not a bomb based on its sales. Its sales are fine, I'm sure capcom will not loose too much money on the game and possibly pull a little profit as it itches closer to 1m.

Monster hunter has had crazy success in japan, the last game sold almost 3.6m units (and its heavily under tracked in Americas/Others on a platform that is supposedly DEAD.

success in general, yes. success as a monster hunter title, no. success in the eyes of developers/retailers? absolutely not, it is a failure.

You can't be serious. The game already sold 1m to capcom. They sold 1m copies to retailers. They made money off of that 1m sold copies. There is not doubt the game ALREADY made  a profit. They didn't lose anything. Not only will they sell more copies, they will also have people pay them monthly to pay online. To say that it will churn a little profit is hilarious. If anybody loses money it is the retailers that bought the game, but even that seems unlikely as they make profits off each game as well. Also the PSP is much MORE popular than the Wii is in Japan. So it is quite obvious the games will sell better on a more popular system, but if you don' buy that then let me go on. Let me tell you that the series has ALWAYS found more success on handhelds than consoles, and seems as if it will continue. No matter how you put it nobody loss money, nothing bombed, and nobodies expectations were crashed with the exception of those who bought the game from capcom, the retailers. To say a game that will most likely sell a million in one region will lost money is as ridiculous as it gets.



Star Scream on 12 August 2009
KillerMan said:
Maynard_Tool said:
KillerMan said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Of course is performing well... just the same old people, claiming the same old thing "Wii bad"

Going by their logic I just realized MGS4 was DA MEGA BOMB!!! in Japan. Who would've thought


PS3 harware base when MGS4 launched: 2.2milj.

Wii hardware base when Monster Hunter tri launched: 8.3milj.

Best selling MGS game in japan (MGS2): 870k

Best selling Monster Hunter game in Japan: 3.35milj.

Maybe that should tell you something...and I don't say that MH3 bombed but it hasn't sell as well as expected.

Oh, so we go by hardware base? Damn, i always thought God of War 1 & 2 sold well, but they freaking BOMBED hard too i guess.

 

I mean, you are also comparing portable with home consoles, so .... that should really tell YOU something x)

But when MGS4 sells only 200k less than MGS3 did with huge PS2 hardware base you can't even joke that it was a bomb. And why not compare home consoles to handhelds when we are comparing game sales? So we can't compare DQIX sales to DQVIII sales because latest one was handheld game?

 

Interesting question...



Maynard_Tool on 12 August 2009
KillerMan said:
Maynard_Tool said:
KillerMan said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Of course is performing well... just the same old people, claiming the same old thing "Wii bad"

Going by their logic I just realized MGS4 was DA MEGA BOMB!!! in Japan. Who would've thought


PS3 harware base when MGS4 launched: 2.2milj.

Wii hardware base when Monster Hunter tri launched: 8.3milj.

Best selling MGS game in japan (MGS2): 870k

Best selling Monster Hunter game in Japan: 3.35milj.

Maybe that should tell you something...and I don't say that MH3 bombed but it hasn't sell as well as expected.

Oh, so we go by hardware base? Damn, i always thought God of War 1 & 2 sold well, but they freaking BOMBED hard too i guess.

 

I mean, you are also comparing portable with home consoles, so .... that should really tell YOU something x)

But when MGS4 sells only 200k less than MGS3 did with huge PS2 hardware base you can't even joke that it was a bomb. And why not compare home consoles to handhelds when we are comparing game sales? So we can't compare DQIX sales to DQVIII sales because latest one was handheld game?

 

So what do we have here?

Monster Hunter = .28M

Monster Hunter G = .23M

Monster Hunter 2 = .63M

 

All of them in the ps2, with HUGE ps2 hardware base.

 

And now, MH-Tri = +.70M in just 9 days, on the wii, with [less] half the install base of the ps2. Now, you can agree is selling well, right?... i mean, if you are happy with MGS4 selling 200K less than MGS3 b/c of the huge install base of the ps2, then you should be more than happy with MH-Tri

Thanks for making my life simplier man =)



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sc94597 on 12 August 2009
KillerMan said:
Maynard_Tool said:
KillerMan said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Of course is performing well... just the same old people, claiming the same old thing "Wii bad"

Going by their logic I just realized MGS4 was DA MEGA BOMB!!! in Japan. Who would've thought


PS3 harware base when MGS4 launched: 2.2milj.

Wii hardware base when Monster Hunter tri launched: 8.3milj.

Best selling MGS game in japan (MGS2): 870k

Best selling Monster Hunter game in Japan: 3.35milj.

Maybe that should tell you something...and I don't say that MH3 bombed but it hasn't sell as well as expected.

Oh, so we go by hardware base? Damn, i always thought God of War 1 & 2 sold well, but they freaking BOMBED hard too i guess.

 

I mean, you are also comparing portable with home consoles, so .... that should really tell YOU something x)

But when MGS4 sells only 200k less than MGS3 did with huge PS2 hardware base you can't even joke that it was a bomb. And why not compare home consoles to handhelds when we are comparing game sales? So we can't compare DQIX sales to DQVIII sales because latest one was handheld game?

That comparison isn't exactly the same thing. The Dragon Quest series has ALWAYS found it's success on home consoles, and that sent a disadvantage for the DS(though it could of went either way because we didn't have any history to compare it to unlike monster hunter). So when the DS overachieves then that is surprising and even more of a success than what would have been expected. That doesn't mean that if it sold worst it was a bomb, just that the series wasn't as popular on handhelds. Monster Hunter is in the same page, but there are three differences.

1. There has already been evidence that the Monster Hunter series doesn't sell as well on consoles, and/or when it has online fees compared to the Free Handheld versions.So it isn't speculating. It was actually quite obvious that the Wii version wouldn't sell as much as the PSP versions. For the Wii version to outsell the comparable products that were console based, and pay to play online is a success in itself.

2 Dragon Quest IX has the same priorities as the console versions. Monster Hunter 3 has different priorities than the handheld versions. The priority for the handheld versions was local multiplayer i.e Ad-Hoc. The priority for Monster Hunter 3 is online. Local Multiplayer and handhelds are much more popular than online and consoles are in Japan. This is  due to people being home a lot less there than in other countries.(High School Students there are actually probably at school more than they are at home)

3 The DS has a larger userbase than the PS2 in Japan. The Wii has a considerable smaller userbase than the PSP in Japan.



sc94597 on 12 August 2009

Anybody else notice that with the exception of the person to start this argument, the people who are trying to compare Monster Hunter 3 to the PSP versions are also those that rarely post in Nintendo related forums?



samus aran rules on 12 August 2009

I cannot understand how anyone can claim that MH3 is a flop. After 9 days it has outsold all PS3 and 360 games. If so then all games on these consoles are bombs. They have not had one single hit. That´s something to think about. (And don´t come draging the MH PSP argument because Japan is mostly a portable country now).



Daileon on 12 August 2009
sc94597 said:
Daileon said:
sc94597 said:
Daileon said:
I don't know if you remember well, but the first shipment, before the launch was 1 million of units. Two weeks past launch and the game still hasn't sold it yet. For a game of the caliber of MH3 (that carried the hope of expand the hardcore audience of the Wii), it's a bomb.

Just hopes that it goes better in the Overseas.

BTW, what was the Capcom expectations?

This is funny. Monster Hunter 3 is on track to outsell all other third party home console games in Japan this generation in three weeks on the market. Not only this, but there is reason to believe that the bundles are being sold out and THAT is why sales are so low and will be low until the next shipment. This is Japan buddy, to reach a million is an amazing feat, and it will most likely hit that mark. Also don't expect anything close to this level or better in the West.  So NO the game didn't get anywhere close to bombing.

 

Edit: Actually it just passed Metal Gear Solid 4 as the best selling third party game on home consoles in Japan.

Different games have different expectations. MH3 was hyped, and have really great production values. It had 3 types of bundles, and a standalone version. If the costumers cannot find the bundle one, they don't care to pay a bit more to get it soon (we are talking about people that would have bought a new console only for the game, the same ones that buy new games only for a 30 minutes demo). And now there are big chains dropping 60% of the price (10 days after launch) since the game is not selling by any means (comparing to their, Capcom and stores expectations).

As I said before, it is a bomb. FOR A MH GAME.

So because it didn't meet YOUR expectations it bombed? LOL That is how we determine "bombs" now. Anyway it is the best selling console Monster Hunter, and it's a failure for the series?

Are you reading what I've being posting, or just trying to being an a*s because I don't agree with you?



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KillerMan on 12 August 2009
Maynard_Tool said:
KillerMan said:
Maynard_Tool said:
KillerMan said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Of course is performing well... just the same old people, claiming the same old thing "Wii bad"

Going by their logic I just realized MGS4 was DA MEGA BOMB!!! in Japan. Who would've thought


PS3 harware base when MGS4 launched: 2.2milj.

Wii hardware base when Monster Hunter tri launched: 8.3milj.

Best selling MGS game in japan (MGS2): 870k

Best selling Monster Hunter game in Japan: 3.35milj.

Maybe that should tell you something...and I don't say that MH3 bombed but it hasn't sell as well as expected.

Oh, so we go by hardware base? Damn, i always thought God of War 1 & 2 sold well, but they freaking BOMBED hard too i guess.

 

I mean, you are also comparing portable with home consoles, so .... that should really tell YOU something x)

But when MGS4 sells only 200k less than MGS3 did with huge PS2 hardware base you can't even joke that it was a bomb. And why not compare home consoles to handhelds when we are comparing game sales? So we can't compare DQIX sales to DQVIII sales because latest one was handheld game?

 

So what do we have here?

Monster Hunter = .28M

Monster Hunter G = .23M

Monster Hunter 2 = .63M

 

All of them in the ps2, with HUGE ps2 hardware base.

 

And now, MH-Tri = +.70M in just 9 days, on the wii, with [less] half the install base of the ps2. Now, you can agree is selling well, right?... i mean, if you are happy with MGS4 selling 200K less than MGS3 b/c of the huge install base of the ps2, then you should be more than happy with MH-Tri

Thanks for making my life simplier man =)

You're welcome! Those Monster Hunter games were released before PSP literations made series so huge in Japan(MHG is cheap port). In MGS case, the original MGS already made series popular in Japan. And I haven't said that MH3 bombed. It just hasn't sold as much as majority people here predicted. Mostly I just got caught with your MGS4 comparison.