I hope for Sony that this leak is intentional, to try and force MS to uncover some of its cards, and that the dates aren't exact.
But OTOH, good dates for games releases for Xmas season aren't so many, overlapping is unavoidable if releases are in large numbers.

The strange thing is Sony have announced their Gamescom lineup but GT5 wasnt in it.

poor MAG...
I already have my share of FPS for this gen, and not buying any more FPS. (only bioshock2, because for me that is more than a fps)

But as a gamer I feel sad for MAG.

MW2 and uncharted 2 will eat all it's sales.

I didn't notice that... maybe they are saving it for TGS, but I am sure they can still surprise us, after all, their conference is before the event begins

Nevermind. I thought this was that stupid excel spreadsheet from before. This is the neon colored release list from Micromania, the biggest video game retailer in France. Based on a couple of guys on Gaf that know people from the company, the dates should be based on placeholder dates received from Sony.

I'm a believer again. The Uncharted date also fits with Naughty Dog's statements that the game would be hitting before the 23rd in Europe, which was the initial date pegged for the region.

And that's what I get for not bothering to click the link in the first place. >_>

Hey, Resistance 2 launched around the time World at War released, and it hardly "bombed"- it sold 450k first week and went on to hit a million within 7 weeks. It wouldn't have sold nearly that well if it launched in Q1.

250k?  You can't be serious.  Even Wii titles like Zack & Wiki do better than that.  Hell, Haze tripled that.

I think MAG will perform similarly to Warhawk, though a bit better due to the much larger install base (plus they'll be able to market 256-man battles pretty well).  It'll sell pretty well for a few weeks, then it will drop off the map.  It'll develop a very hardcore playerbase that will be hard for new players to break into, so it's legs will be almost non-existent.muhc like Warhawk.

I expect 500k or so over the holidays, then nothing much after that.

Every single trailer released for MW2 in the past few months has ended with the 11/10 release date.  That date is definitely correct.

And games released on Tuesdays for years.  Only recently has Friday become a common date for releases.

I hope they are surprising us because I want GT5 this year. And after all Europe is the home of Gran Turismo so why not reveal it at Gamescom?

It's also developed in Japan. Polyphony's headquarters are in Tokyo, they can take a large bus to the event, rather than flying halfway across the world.

I still think they'll show more at GamesCom, and perhaps confirm it for 2009, but I don't think they'll give a specific release date until TGS...or later.