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NightAntilli said:
Joelcool7 said:
NightAntilli said:
Lol.. There are barely any reports of Jaspers with RROD or E74.. That 30+ failure rate is BS right now. It has dropped significantly. There are no numbers yet though, since Jasper just came out.

No offence but everyone said the same thing about the Falcon. Everyone said the Elite fixed the problems with the origional 360. Heck thats why I bought the Elite to begin with. I thought Microsoft had worked all the bugs out and that the Elite would be a sturdy and reliable console. But not too long after I bought mine a friends Elite died. My Elite lasted 2 years but my uncles lasted less then a year and my friends lasted about a year. However I played my 360 less then any of them did.

If they replace my hardware like many say Microsoft does. Just replacing the unit then I hope I get a Jasper. But I have no faith in Microsoft's hardware anymore. I highly doubt I'll buy the next X-Box unless their is a seriously good warranty. The 3 year warranty has protected me this time, I hope that my new unit never RROD's considering that Microsoft only gives you a 3 month warranty with the repaired console. My uncle just got his back and he's worried because it says 3 month warranty but it took his longer then 3 months to Red Ring!

Well, it's different this time because Jasper is the first one to fully be 65nm instead of 90nm. As of now, there are only a handful of reports. Hardware is never 100% reliable, so there are always some faulty ones. I can show you vids on youtube where the PS3 disk tray simply does not pull the disk in. That does not mean it's suddenly 33% failure rate. It WAS like that, but now, it's much lower. In any case, we will have to wait and see. Jaspers only came out recently. We'll only know in a few years from now. Until then, we simply don't know. One or two RE5 consoles getting RROD is not proof for failure rate still being very high.

of course not, but it's enough to understand the RRoD is not fixed, overheating its happening, also the 360 still scratch disc, and it's something they will not fix.



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NightAntilli said:
Joelcool7 said:
NightAntilli said:
Lol.. There are barely any reports of Jaspers with RROD or E74.. That 30+ failure rate is BS right now. It has dropped significantly. There are no numbers yet though, since Jasper just came out.

No offence but everyone said the same thing about the Falcon. Everyone said the Elite fixed the problems with the origional 360. Heck thats why I bought the Elite to begin with. I thought Microsoft had worked all the bugs out and that the Elite would be a sturdy and reliable console. But not too long after I bought mine a friends Elite died. My Elite lasted 2 years but my uncles lasted less then a year and my friends lasted about a year. However I played my 360 less then any of them did.

If they replace my hardware like many say Microsoft does. Just replacing the unit then I hope I get a Jasper. But I have no faith in Microsoft's hardware anymore. I highly doubt I'll buy the next X-Box unless their is a seriously good warranty. The 3 year warranty has protected me this time, I hope that my new unit never RROD's considering that Microsoft only gives you a 3 month warranty with the repaired console. My uncle just got his back and he's worried because it says 3 month warranty but it took his longer then 3 months to Red Ring!

Well, it's different this time because Jasper is the first one to fully be 65nm instead of 90nm. As of now, there are only a handful of reports. Hardware is never 100% reliable, so there are always some faulty ones. I can show you vids on youtube where the PS3 disk tray simply does not pull the disk in. That does not mean it's suddenly 33% failure rate. It WAS like that, but now, it's much lower. In any case, we will have to wait and see. Jaspers only came out recently. We'll only know in a few years from now. Until then, we simply don't know. One or two RE5 consoles getting RROD is not proof for failure rate still being very high.


http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=82149&page=1

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BladeOfGod said:
NightAntilli said:

Well, it's different this time because Jasper is the first one to fully be 65nm instead of 90nm. As of now, there are only a handful of reports. Hardware is never 100% reliable, so there are always some faulty ones. I can show you vids on youtube where the PS3 disk tray simply does not pull the disk in. That does not mean it's suddenly 33% failure rate. It WAS like that, but now, it's much lower. In any case, we will have to wait and see. Jaspers only came out recently. We'll only know in a few years from now. Until then, we simply don't know. One or two RE5 consoles getting RROD is not proof for failure rate still being very high.


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A handful + 1 = still only a handful.



badgenome said:
BladeOfGod said:
NightAntilli said:

Well, it's different this time because Jasper is the first one to fully be 65nm instead of 90nm. As of now, there are only a handful of reports. Hardware is never 100% reliable, so there are always some faulty ones. I can show you vids on youtube where the PS3 disk tray simply does not pull the disk in. That does not mean it's suddenly 33% failure rate. It WAS like that, but now, it's much lower. In any case, we will have to wait and see. Jaspers only came out recently. We'll only know in a few years from now. Until then, we simply don't know. One or two RE5 consoles getting RROD is not proof for failure rate still being very high.


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A handful + 1 = still only a handful.


handful of what?



A handful of reports. Did you actually read NightAntilli's post before you responded to it?



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handful of reoprts from last couple of weeks that is... and lot of people have been telling how Jasper killed RROD, well that guy proved them wrong



^guys don't rub more salt on these poor bastards' wounds. You know, MS precious warranty is expiring for the whole crowd of them, so cut them some slack, they will open their eyes after that.



Magnific0 said:
^guys don't rub more salt on these poor bastards' wounds. You know, MS precious warranty is expiring for the whole crowd of them, so cut them some slack, they will open their eyes after that.

Thanks for your concern, but I still have two more years on my warranty.



BladeOfGod said:
NightAntilli said:
Joelcool7 said:
NightAntilli said:
Lol.. There are barely any reports of Jaspers with RROD or E74.. That 30+ failure rate is BS right now. It has dropped significantly. There are no numbers yet though, since Jasper just came out.

No offence but everyone said the same thing about the Falcon. Everyone said the Elite fixed the problems with the origional 360. Heck thats why I bought the Elite to begin with. I thought Microsoft had worked all the bugs out and that the Elite would be a sturdy and reliable console. But not too long after I bought mine a friends Elite died. My Elite lasted 2 years but my uncles lasted less then a year and my friends lasted about a year. However I played my 360 less then any of them did.

If they replace my hardware like many say Microsoft does. Just replacing the unit then I hope I get a Jasper. But I have no faith in Microsoft's hardware anymore. I highly doubt I'll buy the next X-Box unless their is a seriously good warranty. The 3 year warranty has protected me this time, I hope that my new unit never RROD's considering that Microsoft only gives you a 3 month warranty with the repaired console. My uncle just got his back and he's worried because it says 3 month warranty but it took his longer then 3 months to Red Ring!

Well, it's different this time because Jasper is the first one to fully be 65nm instead of 90nm. As of now, there are only a handful of reports. Hardware is never 100% reliable, so there are always some faulty ones. I can show you vids on youtube where the PS3 disk tray simply does not pull the disk in. That does not mean it's suddenly 33% failure rate. It WAS like that, but now, it's much lower. In any case, we will have to wait and see. Jaspers only came out recently. We'll only know in a few years from now. Until then, we simply don't know. One or two RE5 consoles getting RROD is not proof for failure rate still being very high.


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Read the first reply to that topic, and you'll see, why a handful of reports does not mean it's universally true, because that would mean that the Wii and the PS3 are just as bad.

And just in case you are too lazy:

 

I have 8 x 360's... 

Since my first purchase at launch in 2005 I have only seen two RRoD's... Funny thing about it, they happened in the same week. I sent them both back... They returned, then a week latter I received a third 360 back... Now I have spares just in case.

Meanwhile my one Wii has been returned to Nintendo once for replacement and both of my PS3's have died twice.



Truth does not fear investigation

Back in the day, my cousins and I used to leave my NES on for days at a time when playing games like Mario 3, cuz we kept beating it over and over and eventually got to the point where all of our stored items were P-Wings, so we wanted that shit saved lol! Thing got hot as hell, but NEVER crapped out on us.

Getting games to properly play in the first place however... that's a whole 'nother issue in and of itself which I'm sure that any old school gamer is very familiar with lol! Thank you top-loading NES!!!

Other than that, I've had my 360 RROD almost a year after I got it... no problems since. And my GC kept getting disc read errors just 6 months after I got it at launch, so I sent it in to Nintendo and they repaired or replaced it free of charge... they're the best!

Basically, as game consoles get more and more complex with more moving parts and whatnot, they are more prone to some kind of failure, especially over the past 2 gens where all systems were CD/DVD based (except for N64). Cartridge-based systems are nearly fail-proof... still got my Atari 7800 and it works like its brand new!



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