You keep posting before I do!!! >

Congrats for you. If you have no interest in a PS3 why waste your time in a PS3 related thread?

Seems kind of pointless wouldn't you agree?

Go take monlosez advice.

1. If you are correct about the only thing causing them to lose money being R&D... then that is a hell of a huge set of R&D costs just for PSPGo/PS3 slim... costs that were barely noticed when they made the PS2 slim and the original PSP.
As such, it still doesn't make sense for them to drop the PS3 price just because the PS3 alone might barely be profitable, because they are going to lose the supposed profits bein made from it now and sink into deep red with all those huge R&D costs when they start developing PS4/PSP2 (which will surely cost a shitload more than a slim PS3 and PSPGo)

2. If the scenario above is part of the problem, nd in addition you are correct that R&D for PS4/PSP2 is costing them anything significant now.... then that is just as bad because R&D for those is going to spiral in the next couple of years.

3. If you are wrong, and there are no significant R&D costs at the moment, and it is still the PS3 losing money, well... it still makes no difference, there won't be a huge price cut.

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I could see a $50 price cut this Winter being possible, but I don't believe PS3 hardware is profitable now, and certainly won't be when they cut a further $50 off.

Sony themselves have stated (back in December) that the PS3 business (HW and SW) just in Europe could become profitable about March 2009
if that indeed happened then by now the PS3 business could be profitable (read: just breaking even) worldwide.... but PS3 hardware is not there yet.

"If you are correct about the only thing causing them to lose money being R&D... "

Point me in the direction I ever said that...

These companies should just make Castle Crashers playable between PS3 and 360 owners.

Problem solved!!!

No more arguing, just more Castle Crashers.

i understand main reason i brought up the PPC shrink issue was that. however if we are basing these on the next model they are fairly genourus in terms of what we think cost savings will be. unless they are striping more parts out i do expect it to be cheaper overall but not anything that could make a 100 dollar price cut profitable this year... maybe next spring... 

i feel it will be a slim and no price cut till next year to help bring in profit, but i could be wrong and i dont mind if i am. 

Well, then here is to hoping that you are wrong.

I just can't see Sony going into another holiday without a price cut. They will get slaughtered.

Anyways it's been fun guys. Best discussion I have had in a while.

Time to play some games.

Well the losses the gaming division has been taking don't seem to have any other explanation if you thing PS3 is profitable.