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NJ5 on 31 July 2009
Xigmund said:
NJ5 said:
Xigmund said:
^

http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_replace_dvd

Look at 1.15

So they say the cost should be the same as DVD when it's produced on the same scale (which of course didn't happen yet).

 

You're gonna have to take that up with them. That's what the official Blu-Ray site says. So idk lol

Nothing to take up, I basically repeated what they said.

Obviously Blu-Ray isn't yet being produced on the same scale as DVD, it doesn't sell as much yet.

 



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Dgc1808 on 31 July 2009
ruimartiniman said:
The Velour Fog said:
Where's the proof that Sony is losing money with Blu-Ray?

Sony´s profit per game would be higher if PS3 games were recorded in dvd instead of BR disc. I just want to know how much they lose per game by releasing it in BR and not in DVD, because dvd´s cost production is lower than BR.  

How do you know Blu-Ray's affecting SONY's profit per game by anything significant compared to 360 games???

Even if it is a little higher, how can you say their losing money on BD????


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Kasz216 on 31 July 2009
zexen_lowe said:
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/en/about/BenefitsfortheIndustry/discs.html

"At the same output levels, production costs for Blu-ray Discs are about 10% higher than DVD per disc."

So, if a DVD hypotetically costs 10 cents to produce, a BD costs 11

At the same output levels.

Blu-rays output is much lower, no?

PS3 game production in general is likely lower then PS2 by well.... a lot.  They aren't selling nearly as many games or movies.

Still it isn't too bad.

Way back when it first started I heard it was like a buck a disc and it's only gone down from then.



ruimartiniman on 31 July 2009
Dgc1808 said:
ruimartiniman said:
The Velour Fog said:
Where's the proof that Sony is losing money with Blu-Ray?

Sony´s profit per game would be higher if PS3 games were recorded in dvd instead of BR disc. I just want to know how much they lose per game by releasing it in BR and not in DVD, because dvd´s cost production is lower than BR.  

How do you know Blu-Ray's affecting SONY's profit per game by anything significant compared to 360 games???

Even if it is a little higher, how can you say their losing money on BD????


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i´m not saying it´s significant, i´m wondering if it is significant or not.

 Realistically, a Blu-ray disc happens to cost twice as much as a regular DVD. Take for instance, the recent release of "The Dark Knight". The BD version costs S$59.90 and the 2-Disc special edition DVD costs only S$29.90 not taking account into some special deals offered by retailers.

http://www.moviexclusive.com/article/bluray/bluray.htm$14.99

If a blue ray disc costs twice a dvd ( or more , see the prices for die hard 4 some posts ago), should be true that its prodution cost is only 5-10% higher?

So it is higher than 360, but is it a litlle bit higher or more than that? That´s my question.



Procrastinato on 31 July 2009

On multi-disc games, I would imagine the BD version would be cheaper.

Also, Sony, being a major member of the BDA, makes a royalty off every BD made, but not off DVDs (or at least not nearly as much).

Sony also makes royalties off every other BD game printed for their system, in addition to the licensing fee they make for it being on their system in the first place.

In short, at this stage, BD does not hurt Sony's games business in any way, shape, or form. I would even say that its probably a fair bit of a boon for them, and that's not even taking the savings from not having to make multi-disc cases for some games into account.



 

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ruimartiniman on 31 July 2009
Procrastinato said:
On multi-disc games, I would imagine the BD version would be cheaper.

Also, Sony, being a major member of the BDA, makes a royalty off every BD made, but not off DVDs (or at least not nearly as much).

Sony also makes royalties off every other BD game printed for their system, in addition to the licensing fee they make for it being on their system in the first place.

In short, at this stage, BD does not hurt Sony's games business in any way, shape, or form. I would even say that its probably a fair bit of a boon for them, and that's not even taking the savings from not having to make multi-disc cases for some games into account.

You´re right about the royalties and the cases. It´s quite possible BD does not hurt Sony at all, considering what you just wrote.