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ssj12 said:
Simulacrum said:
Blaming Sony because its bad for business.
If Sony wants to us use Home,Psn, heck even buy games it must think those who doesn't wanna upgrade to bigger harddrive like Pc.

wtf are you communicating with us with then if you don't like PC? And wtf is with this limited scope of PCs anyways. In your mind there what general use PCs and gaming PCs? I really hope you know there are multi-media PCs, gaming PCs, student/basic PCs, business PCs, programmer PCs, server PCs, and probably a few others I forgot. PC is not limited to what it can and can't be used for.

Even a basic student PC needs storage space because they might need a ton of e-books installed, programs, and since they are students we know it will have a ton of music on it.

Let me guess whenever you need more storage space on your PC you either delete stuff off your computer or buy an entire new PC? (I dear god hope you don't do the latter)

Dude...I study Pc programming.

Where in hell I say I don't like PC??



 

 

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Squilliam said:
Pristine20 said:
Squilliam said:

I find the PS3 included instructions to be insufficient. For example the instructions on the Mirrors edge theme directed me in the wrong direction, it wasn't until I downloaded newer instructions that I found out how to use the theme.

Its not a question of what you do when you have an empty PS3 and you're whipping out the HDD, its more about the complexity involved in doing so for a PS3 whos HDD is full.

Well I can't imagine how much harder it could possibly be to swap a 360 hdd vs that of a ps3. Most people  if not everyone who plays games has a PC so things like backing up shouldn't be too complicated. Also, gamers who would choose to buy ps3 this gen would tend to have even more tech knowledge than your average casual gamer. I simply find it hard to believe that you who can post all those tech jargon that I find hard to understand, were unable to do something as simple as unscrewing a hdd when even I could do it with the info provided. It's hard to believe.

I think you were just unwilling or just innately wanted it to feel really hard and so it came to pass...

 

 

 

I was talking about the wider public. My own abilities to build, tweak and overclock computers is not for example a skill which many people here possess or that many people in the general public possess. Therefore I assume that people don't have the time/willingness to do so. Its like the question of how many people used lens cleaner or dialed their PS2s laser in 4-5 times over the course of a generation vs the number of people who bought a 2nd or 3rd console?

I can definitely understand the "wider public" not understanding but it still doesn't explain how come you couldn't do it with the instruction packaged in the box because you're definitely waaay beyond the wider public. It should also be noted that the wider public are mostly absent on ps3 and the few who have one probably won't fill their HDDs.

The TC's problem here is probably not that he doesn't know how to do it (especially when there are even videos on youtube if sony's instructions are really that bad), it's that he doesn't want to do it and chooses to toss the blame elsewhere.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Not wanting to do something is 'okay' by me. My PS3 failed twice, I personally had no trouble whacking the HDD out and then back again and if he doesn't want to do something then he does have a right to raise it as an issue. These forums are built in a large part by people not liking things, if everyone liked everything the same then there would be nothing to discuss.



Tease.

Pristine20 said:
Squilliam said:
Pristine20 said:
Squilliam said:
I prefer the Xbox 360 way, its as easy as 1. 2. 3.

1. Buy new HDD.
2. Use HDD transfer cable.
3. Sell old HDD.

I don't think anything which generally requires someone to access an online instruction manual is good for the general public.

Online instruction manual? Seriously? For someone who has a ps3, your lack of knowledge about simple things ps3 can be puzzling. Instructions come packaged with the console and don't need to be found online.

I find the PS3 included instructions to be insufficient. For example the instructions on the Mirrors edge theme directed me in the wrong direction, it wasn't until I downloaded newer instructions that I found out how to use the theme.

Its not a question of what you do when you have an empty PS3 and you're whipping out the HDD, its more about the complexity involved in doing so for a PS3 whos HDD is full.

Well I can't imagine how much harder it could possibly be to swap a 360 hdd vs that of a ps3. Most people  if not everyone who plays games has a PC so things like backing up shouldn't be too complicated. Also, gamers who would choose to buy ps3 this gen would tend to have even more tech knowledge than your average casual gamer. I simply find it hard to believe that you who can post all those tech jargon that I find hard to understand, were unable to do something as simple as unscrewing a hdd when even I could do it with the info provided. It's hard to believe.

I think you were just unwilling or just innately wanted it to feel really hard and so it came to pass...

 

 

 

To swap HDD's with a 360 takes barely any time. To swap the PS3's it has to be done in a manner that doesn't make you lose all of your installs and saves.



I love these two attempted sidesteps of the superiority of the PS3's swappable non-proprietary drive: 1. "PS3 drive swapping takes too long" and 2. "People don't get it".

But for less money you can have a much bigger drive on the PS3.



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Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

I love these two attempted sidesteps of the superiority of the PS3's swappable non-proprietary drive: 1. "PS3 drive swapping takes too long" and 2. "People don't get it".

But for less money you can have a much bigger drive on the PS3.


How about..Sony was stupid and lost another form of profit. That is not a sign of superiority in a brand. The only superior mind is your own who can screw Sony over by buying another brands external HDD. HDD's could've been another form of profit for Sony.



Squilliam said:
Not wanting to do something is 'okay' by me. My PS3 failed twice, I personally had no trouble whacking the HDD out and then back again and if he doesn't want to do something then he does have a right to raise it as an issue. These forums are built in a large part by people not liking things, if everyone liked everything the same then there would be nothing to discuss.

Not wanting to do something is ok by me as well. However, not wanting to do something and complaing about not getting the end product of that process is NOT ok by me.

Think abot this: back in the ps1 and ps2 era, storage was based on memory cards, space filled up really quickly with games like vagrant story using up 3 blocks out of 15 on ps1 and games like Drakan:the ancient gates using up 1.5mb out of 8 mb on the ps2. Space issues have always been a part of gaming but everyone just went out and bought new memory cards without complaining.

With that said, the TC's issue here is that he seems to expect that space would just be solved by default out of the box when the reality is that such an issue can't be solved and really depends on the user. My own ps3 (currently broken) has stuff on it approaching 140gb. This is partly because I had every demo on ps3 downloaded and a couple of movies on it as well. Do I have a right to blame sony that my original 60gb of space wasn't enough? There are legit "epic fails" from sony, this just isn't one of them IMO. My ps3 and yours (as it seems) breaking for the 2nd time would be legit "epic fails" not having to upgrade to a new HDD.

With the TC wanting to somehow have enough space for all he wants to do right out of the box, I don't think the 360 would have solved the problem for him (and especially not the wii where there is currently no solution) either because he never compalined about the process of swapping hdds, he only complained about not having enough space out the box.

It's all fair that the forum is about opinions but I don't believe in slamming others when the fault lies with yourself...just not right.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

S.T.A.G.E. said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

I love these two attempted sidesteps of the superiority of the PS3's swappable non-proprietary drive: 1. "PS3 drive swapping takes too long" and 2. "People don't get it".

But for less money you can have a much bigger drive on the PS3.


How about..Sony was stupid and lost another form of profit. That is not a sign of superiority in a brand. The only superior mind is your own who can screw Sony over by buying another brands external HDD. HDD's could've been another form of profit for Sony.

WHAT?!.

it was awesome engineerin move, the cost saves are given to the comsumers, and thats a selling point.

sony also use a standard  pc power cable, if you broke you dont have to pay Dell or HP 70$ for a damn cable.



Xoj said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

I love these two attempted sidesteps of the superiority of the PS3's swappable non-proprietary drive: 1. "PS3 drive swapping takes too long" and 2. "People don't get it".

But for less money you can have a much bigger drive on the PS3.


How about..Sony was stupid and lost another form of profit. That is not a sign of superiority in a brand. The only superior mind is your own who can screw Sony over by buying another brands external HDD. HDD's could've been another form of profit for Sony.

WHAT?!.

it was awesome engineerin move, the cost saves are given to the comsumers, and thats a selling point.

sony also use a standard  pc power cable, if you broke you dont have to pay Dell or HP 70$ for a damn cable.


You're not reading properly are you? Their intention was not to give you savings. Sony doesn't like it that people buy cheaper HDD's with larger capacities when they aren't profiting off of it. You must be in some dream world to think that Sony intended for things to be this way.



I am confuses as to how the 360 even made its way into this thread. Talk about having a inferiority complex searching for expression. What Microsoft does with their console has no relevance to what Sony has done with theirs. Stop playing the blame game, and passing the buck. This discussion has to deal with with the PS3s storage issues. Not with the issues that may, or may not exist on other consoles. Be they past or present.

A lot of you show the weakness of your argument when you play the blame game. A lot of you are playing the old plea bargain tattle to the hilt. You know what I am talking about. When you get caught doing something bad, and instead of just owning up you raise the stakes. Gambling that you can get off by offering someone else up to the slaughter. It is the hallmark of a true asshole. Dragging everyone else down with you.

This is all about Sony. Stop pointing fingers at Microsoft or Nintendo trying to convince everyone that they did something much worse. Stop being rat bastards.