@Underlined: Very True.

@Bolded: Very blunt, LoL.

But this proves that you are talking out of your ass so to speak, your making stuff up on the spot just to bag sony. If u have a look you'll notice that microsoft lost alot of money on the xbox.  Even with 360 it hasn't been exactly profitable, in fact they lose $126 US per console sold.

Just have a simple look up next time rather than try and state something as fact when its wrong.

There are two key factors with console success... Console sales and strength of AAA 3rd party support...

If you are not selling as many consoles but AAA 3rd party support is strong you are OK.

The problem is when AAA 3rd party support weakens and console sales disappear as well.

If PS3 sales slow more, AAA 3rd parties may assess the situation. If they decide to stay PS3 is fine, if they start jumping ship, then PS3 will be in loads of trouble.

For B games and shovelware we are already seeing this happen. 360 is getting B and shovelware games but PS3 is not this holiday season (Might be a good thing depending on how you look at it)... Darkest of Days, Raiden IV, Bass Pro Shops The Strike, Risen, Squeeballs, Ben 10, CSI, Are You Smarter then a 5th Grader, Spongebob are lower level games that will ship on 360 and not PS3 this holiday. They are all B level or shovelware games, but the point is 3rd party support is weakening at that level... If it goes to the AAA level then, PS3 is a dead console walking. I don't see that happening for a while though, as AAA sales of software are decent to strong on PS3.

Wow, troll title or what?

I think in 2010 we'll look back on "PS3 is doomed" threads and laugh.

I think it will be more of what were seeing now. It will just stay in 3rd place. 3rd parties arnt going to stop creating games because it already has a 21+M fan base. The only thing that will happen is sales wont increase much above their current levels

Dodece: PS3 shipped 1.1 million consoles and 360 shipped 1.2 million worldwide. So there is only 0.1 million in shipped figures at least. These are from official quarterly from MS and Sony so you can't get much better figures. And official figures are the only really trustworthy figures, every other source only have estimates.

Let's speak the truth... The installation base difference is too insignificant to really make much difference. So most HD titles are going to remain multiplatform until the end of the generation. There is bigger chance that developers would forget both PS3 and 360 than just PS3.

@Untamoi

Shipped is not the same as sold to consmuers. It is a standard practice within the industry to both stockpile and to stuff. In other words they are a poor indicator of true sales. In fact they are fairly worthless. I think Microsoft did a fairly good job a couple years ago of showing just how many consoles retailers will gladly take. Probably in no small part due to the fear that they will not have big ticket holiday items in stock. Better to be bloated then famished I suppose.

@Kzoellner

Speaking to the seventy percent figure. I think it is erroneous, or at least the understanding of what was said is erroneous. I think launch does not refer to the cost of console manufacture as of the time of the consoles retail launch, but as of the time production of the console launched. Which means the first consoles off the assembly line were probably running over $1300. Which I could believe, because Sony had early production issues. This is the only reasonable way that the comments from both Stringer and Oneda can be reconciled.

Otherwise one man or the other must be terribly wrong. Even the bizarre wisdom that a slim had a massive price reduction impact doesn't hold water. For the console to be on table to arrive in the next few months the console had to have begun production in late spring. Before Stringer made his comments. So we are left with a paradox one man must be wrong. So who's word shall we take.

In the end the lack of a clarification of the word launch is the simplest rational explanation. That doesn't involve some degree of deception. For me the math just isn't adding up with what we know, and what has been supported by previous statements.

It's doing fine.

I'm calling bullshit unless you show me a link.