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shock182 on 28 July 2009
Shadowblind said:
ph4nt said:
Shadowblind said:

To the people calling Microsoft a greedy, money-hungry corporation.

Sony and Nintendo are too.

Congratulations on figuring out what a COMPANY is. Certainly hope nobody strained themselves.

 

Greedy and money-hungry applies to Microsoft, A company focussed on profit is Nintendo.

 

The way they achieve these goals determines how I categorize them.

 

That's why I think Microsoft is evil, and takes advantage of it's customers.

 

It's kind of like a businessman and a drug dealer.

 

I mean after all they are just both trying to sell things to get money right? The method they use to get that money is what counts.

 

Before I respond to this, do you know what PROFITS are? Your first line says "no, I do not."

You do know that no matter how well you explain it, nothing will sink in. It is obvious from reading the previous posts.



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Darth Tigris on 28 July 2009
canch said:

his part of the article is true and not so true......

'The Xbox exists to stop the PlayStation brand from succeeding, and MS essentially stuck its big nose into an industry that it didn't really have any business getting involved with'

Microsoft did indeed make the xbox to stop Sony claiming the front room to itself.  Not from games but from digtal downloads like movies, music on demand TV, shopping etc and knew Sony was well place to take advanage of all this.  In turn Sony became a major threat to MS and MS had to do something to counter this.

But the other part 'MS essentially stuck its big nose into an industry' doesn't make sense.  Sony did the same thing back in the 90's since then the industry has needed a new company to come in.  If their was no Xbox...  Sony's PS3 would still cost £500 and have limited online gaming etc...

The xbox has woken sony into new thinking.  Sony must now think of what USA, European gamers needs instead of just japanese.

You see, canch really hit some good points here.  Sony also had absolutely no business getting involved in gaming either when it did, so why not the same analytical judgment against them?  The writer part of the Playstation generation that thinks the gaming world began with them?

 

madkiller said:
News flash for everyone...a lot of N64 games cost $70 to $80, and even more sometimes. Killer Instinct Gold cost $85 when it was released. Also, original, I repeat, original NES games over 20 years ago cost $50. I paid $50 for MLB baseball on the NES in 1987...

Thanks, madkiller.  I can list out a number of games from the 16-bit generation that cost more than $60.  8 meg catridges were a big deal and they made us pay for it.  Games like Street Fighter II were $75 and we paid it because the game was the Halo of its time.  There were even games like Phantasy Star 4 and Virtua Racing that cost $100!!!  But then came CD's and games finally got down to $40-50 new.  But, to be honest, considering the BUDGETS of games back then compared to now, we were REALLY getting ripped off by what they were charging.  So the writer is also way off base with his comments about what games cost now and especially for blaming Microsoft for it.



DjFlex53 on 28 July 2009
ZenfoldorVGI said:

 

PC gaming is an overcomplicated, pirate-happy, buggy, crash-prone, expensive, and derivitive, DRM fest, whose supposed superiority is based upon nude mods, graphics, and conventional simplistic controls, and is slowly being phased out of mainstream HD gaming by HD popular consoles, developers, lack of a first party, piracy, non-uniformity in hardware, and ever increasing barriers to entry.

I'm a PC gamer. Pretending that it's all roses on this side of the ball is pure marketing. You invested more in your PC, and thus you are invested more in its success. Same reason PS3 fanboys are the most rabid. Their console costs the most. They need to work out 400 bucks worth of cognitive dissonance.


  ^ ^ I totally agree



Being in 2nd feels so much better than being in 3rd

ph4nt on 28 July 2009
Shadowblind said:
ph4nt said:
Shadowblind said:

To the people calling Microsoft a greedy, money-hungry corporation.

Sony and Nintendo are too.

Congratulations on figuring out what a COMPANY is. Certainly hope nobody strained themselves.

 

Greedy and money-hungry applies to Microsoft, A company focussed on profit is Nintendo.

 

The way they achieve these goals determines how I categorize them.

 

That's why I think Microsoft is evil, and takes advantage of it's customers.

 

It's kind of like a businessman and a drug dealer.

 

I mean after all they are just both trying to sell things to get money right? The method they use to get that money is what counts.

 

Before I respond to this, do you know what PROFITS are? Your first line says "no, I do not."

 

Of course, Profit = Revenue - expenses.

It's obvious it's the only reason These companies, or any company for that matter, exists, heck it's the only reason we do anything worthwile really (for the most part). The way you state things it's like all companies are greedy money-whores, which soudns extremely negative.

I don't have a problem with that, what I do have a problem with, like i've stated earlier, is the method a company uses to get that money. Microsoft's tactics,  i find, are insulting. Which is why I, and many others, hate them as a company. I love their products (Windows, xbox) But I despise the company behind it.



Spankey on 28 July 2009
Legend11 said:
madkiller said:
People need to stop with the Microsoft is evil and greedy BS. Bill Gates gives more money to charity than all of the Sony and Nintendo executives combined...


Apparently all the top executives at Microsoft wear dark robes and refer to each other with the first name "Darth".

hey hold on a second, I thought Sony was the Dark Side...



Proud Sony Rear Admiral

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Grahamhsu on 28 July 2009
ph4nt said:
Shadowblind said:
ph4nt said:
Shadowblind said:

To the people calling Microsoft a greedy, money-hungry corporation.

Sony and Nintendo are too.

Congratulations on figuring out what a COMPANY is. Certainly hope nobody strained themselves.

 

Greedy and money-hungry applies to Microsoft, A company focussed on profit is Nintendo.

 

The way they achieve these goals determines how I categorize them.

 

That's why I think Microsoft is evil, and takes advantage of it's customers.

 

It's kind of like a businessman and a drug dealer.

 

I mean after all they are just both trying to sell things to get money right? The method they use to get that money is what counts.

 

Before I respond to this, do you know what PROFITS are? Your first line says "no, I do not."

 

Of course, Profit = Revenue - expenses.

It's obvious it's the only reason These companies, or any company for that matter, exists, heck it's the only reason we do anything worthwile really (for the most part). The way you state things it's like all companies are greedy money-whores, which soudns extremely negative.

I don't have a problem with that, what I do have a problem with, like i've stated earlier, is the method a company uses to get that money. Microsoft's tactics,  i find, are insulting. Which is why I, and many others, hate them as a company. I love their products (Windows, xbox) But I despise the company behind it.

So you must think Rockefeller is the biggest douche of them all along with the Federal Reserve Bank?




-=Dew the disco dancing fo da Unco Graham=-

Darth Tigris on 28 July 2009
ph4nt said:
Shadowblind said:
ph4nt said:
Shadowblind said:

To the people calling Microsoft a greedy, money-hungry corporation.

Sony and Nintendo are too.

Congratulations on figuring out what a COMPANY is. Certainly hope nobody strained themselves.

 

Greedy and money-hungry applies to Microsoft, A company focussed on profit is Nintendo.

 

The way they achieve these goals determines how I categorize them.

 

That's why I think Microsoft is evil, and takes advantage of it's customers.

 

It's kind of like a businessman and a drug dealer.

 

I mean after all they are just both trying to sell things to get money right? The method they use to get that money is what counts.

 

Before I respond to this, do you know what PROFITS are? Your first line says "no, I do not."

 

Of course, Profit = Revenue - expenses.

It's obvious it's the only reason These companies, or any company for that matter, exists, heck it's the only reason we do anything worthwile really (for the most part). The way you state things it's like all companies are greedy money-whores, which soudns extremely negative.

I don't have a problem with that, what I do have a problem with, like i've stated earlier, is the method a company uses to get that money. Microsoft's tactics,  i find, are insulting. Which is why I, and many others, hate them as a company. I love their products (Windows, xbox) But I despise the company behind it.

Could you specify these tactics that Microsoft uses?  I thank you in advance.



Kantor on 28 July 2009

Okay, so Destructoid have bashed Sony and Microsoft, I'd love to see what they hate Nintendo for.



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Scoobes on 28 July 2009
Darth Tigris said:
ph4nt said:
Shadowblind said:
ph4nt said:
Shadowblind said:

To the people calling Microsoft a greedy, money-hungry corporation.

Sony and Nintendo are too.

Congratulations on figuring out what a COMPANY is. Certainly hope nobody strained themselves.

 

Greedy and money-hungry applies to Microsoft, A company focussed on profit is Nintendo.

 

The way they achieve these goals determines how I categorize them.

 

That's why I think Microsoft is evil, and takes advantage of it's customers.

 

It's kind of like a businessman and a drug dealer.

 

I mean after all they are just both trying to sell things to get money right? The method they use to get that money is what counts.

 

Before I respond to this, do you know what PROFITS are? Your first line says "no, I do not."

 

Of course, Profit = Revenue - expenses.

It's obvious it's the only reason These companies, or any company for that matter, exists, heck it's the only reason we do anything worthwile really (for the most part). The way you state things it's like all companies are greedy money-whores, which soudns extremely negative.

I don't have a problem with that, what I do have a problem with, like i've stated earlier, is the method a company uses to get that money. Microsoft's tactics,  i find, are insulting. Which is why I, and many others, hate them as a company. I love their products (Windows, xbox) But I despise the company behind it.

Could you specify these tactics that Microsoft uses?  I thank you in advance.

I saw this and thought I'd post a couple of links to wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_litigation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft

Microsoft have a habit of breaking laws and getting away with it.




Get your Portable ID!

Citan on 28 July 2009
Shadowblind said:

To the people calling Microsoft a greedy, money-hungry corporation.

Sony and Nintendo are too.

Congratulations on figuring out what a COMPANY is. Certainly hope nobody strained themselves.


That sounded easy, but to add a little more to your comment:

 There`s a huge difference between creating something from your soul and your ass even though people like it or not.