Read the rest of the thread before you try to be clever.

So... some 360 models have HDMI port, others don't. Should they be counted separately?

Wow, seriously do you people read?

I said my reason for thinking they should be counted seperately was because DSi has DSi exclusives.

Do 360s with HDMI have "360 HDMI exclusives"? No.

Because you don't want the DS to pass PS2 sales we should count them seperatley? Come on. Just accept the fact that the DS is the best selling console ever and you'll be fine.

P.S. We are counting sales to consumers not to retailers here so don't try to change the rules.

It's really simple and Carl makes sense. If Ps2 slim had games you can ONLY PLAY on the slim it would be a whole new console since Ps2 fat owners would have to upgrade to play said games. Same thing is being said for DS/DSI. There is DSI games exclusive that you can't play on original DS which means it's technically a new console. If PsP GO only offers downloadable games for PsP Go (which they aren't) it would be a new console as well.

Either way I have no opinion on wether or not the sales of ds should be seperated. My opinions on DS outselling a home console are another story though.

Where did i say i dont want it to pass PS2 sales... how would that affect me in any way, shape or form?

I just think a platform what has its own exclusive games, should be a seperate platform.

And actually, PS2 has ~138million shipped as of March (i think). So what i said about ~135million sold, could be right.

Just because you doesnt said so doesnt mean you want it to pass PS2 sales. In fact your week arguments prove it.

Should Sega CD be counted seperately from the Mega Drive/Genesis? If so Sega CD should be part of the 5th generation of console? Sorry but id doesnt work that way.

Like I said before we are using sold numbers not shipped and VGC is having the PS2 at 125.5M.

P.S. http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=DS®1=All&cons2=PS2®2=All&cons3=®3=------&weeks=156

The DS have easily beat the PS2 in the same life frame.

My weak arguements...

I have 1 arguement, what is entirely viable.
I already answered a Sega CD kind of arguement a while back.

And you expect me, or anyone else to belive that there are ~15Million PS2s on store shelves?
Please...

Never. I expect the new Hardware Gen to start by 2010/2011.

Nothing will beat the PS2's 135M except for the PS5 DUN DUN DUNNNN

BRAVO!

Ok so the Sega CD should be part of which gen? Because, Wikipedia counts it with the Mega Drive/Genesis.

And I expect you to take the VGC numbers. Otherwise everybody could create their own numbers.

That's funny because you didnt answer to what I have said about the same life frame.