Shouldn't you be for faith based schools then?  What if ones faith says that one must learn from a respected member of their religion?

To say "they're being picky they should just go to regular schools" is not really giving them an option.

you misunderstoood, sorry

any place of educaiton should be for everyone imo, faith schools preclude certain people, so would be against that, so i oppose them strongly.

do you understand now?

if they can prove to me that there religon is based upon facts and that failing to do so will definetley result in them being punished by there deity, yes, till then, no.

That's a pretty tall order... and one you don't hold a lot of other government run programs to.

For example National Healthcare.  There are no facts that prove it's a good idea, no data to suggest it's really helpful etc.

National Healthcare is provided by the UK because the people of England believe healthcare is something everyone should have.

This is not based on any fact.

Almost nothing in this world is proven by "facts" and even then many things that are proven by what are thought to be facts are later overturned.

The fact that democracy is the best government in general isn't even based on a fact.  There is no reason we should have one over a dictatorship or oligarchy or anything else.  Outside of it being a prefrence with no facts.

even if we follow your logic, faith schools still get no funding as most people dont want them too, atleast according to polls, most people do want the NHS, so basically, your logic only gets you to the same place as me, just via another route.

I am against faith based schools.  The only thing i disagree with is your logic.

Demanding facts for choices in governce would lead to unworkable governence.

whats your logic then?

A government should not provide services for a specific group of people unless those people are handicapped in some way since everybody pays taxes.

People should be eligable for all government programs.  (except those for the disabled.)

If your wondering how you get around welfare and stuff like that... you do it by giving away food and clothing instead of money.

oh, ok, i get that, i also suggested that idea for welfare myself in another thread a while back, lol, my logic may well be flawed, i dont think things through enough sometimes.

now that im thinking about it, that approach to welfare makes much sense, we could give everyone the bare minimum they need to survive, a home, healthcare, education, clothing, food, water, electricity, public transport, but if they want extra, they would need to find employment, once they do, they can get the nice things they want like TV's and stuff, this would also get the government to either create more jobs itself or to give private companies incentives to do so, of course, it means tax on what you do earn may be high, but as you get the essentialls anyway, you cant really complain, plus if you worked the tax system out properly, the more the job pays, the more you earn and the more you pay in tax.

Hating Jews has nothing to do with Race, or Religion, and everything to do with Power.

Education is the way to power, and while today, everyone is for education, it's been part of the Jewish Culture for a very long time. Far longer then education has been the norm. So, hundreds of years ago Jews move into a country, have a very small base, yet due most all of them can read, have high math skills, and all the other things that come with education. When the country you move to only has 10% with those skills (and back then, that was all of them), you thrive. This means you make a lot of money, and gain a lot of power.

Anytime a small group of people have a lot of power, they are targets. When things go south (like after WWI, and today), whatever small group is in power, gets blamed for it all. So, Jews take a lot of shit from people.

Now, as for the hate crime comments. I hate that term. A crime is a crime. If I punch someone because they are a jew, and I don't like jews, then it should be the same crime if I just punched someone because i thought it would be fun. I am allowed to think anything I want, it's what I do that matters.

Oh, and FYI. I am a German Jew.

That's my theory... much harder to "cheat" the system too.

Too many people spend the money that should be spent on their children on fancy stuff for themselves while there kids have clothes that are falling apart etc.

Plus people will get healthy food rather then fast food.