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C_Hollomon said:

I always care more about gameplay but all games on the PS3 and 360 should be at 720p or 1080p. It feels good to play KZ2 and MGS4 in 1080p. Not only the graphics good but the gameplay is top notch in both games to me.

To all the Halo fans, I would be mad and disappointed with Bungie. Bungie got all that money and can't make Halo ODST run in 720p or 1080p. I know a lot of you will say it's all about the gameplay but it's also about graphics too.

In resolution terms it goes: Halo 3/ODST < MGS4 < 720P HD = Killzone 2 < 1920/1080P Full HD.

You should be mad at yourself for being foolish.



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C_Hollomon said:

I always care more about gameplay but all games on the PS3 and 360 should be at 720p or 1080p. It feels good to play KZ2 and MGS4 in 1080p. Not only the graphics good but the gameplay is top notch in both games to me.

To all the Halo fans, I would be mad and disappointed with Bungie. Bungie got all that money and can't make Halo ODST run in 720p or 1080p. I know a lot of you will say it's all about the gameplay but it's also about graphics too.


For christ sake...

people sometimes have no clue what the hell they are talking about yet post it as if it were a fact.

MGS4 is NATIVE 720p(1280x720)...upscaled to 1080p by ps3 or TV

Killzone 2 is 720p(1280x720)...upscaled to 1080p by PS3 or TV

Halo 3 runs native 640p (1138x640)...upscaled by Xbox360 to 1080p.

Please stop posting nonsence people. If you saw a video at 720p and 640p running on the same TV you would not be able to tell them apart. Besides it is all upscaled to 1080p.

May I add that the upscaller in the 360 is much much better than one found in ps3 (since there isnt one in the ps3 and upscalling has to be done with software)

Remember this story anyone - http://kotaku.com/215049/ps3-cant-upscale-a-720p-signal-urgh

Sony have added upscaller support with software since but it still isn't as good as the 360 one.



disolitude said:
C_Hollomon said:

I always care more about gameplay but all games on the PS3 and 360 should be at 720p or 1080p. It feels good to play KZ2 and MGS4 in 1080p. Not only the graphics good but the gameplay is top notch in both games to me.

To all the Halo fans, I would be mad and disappointed with Bungie. Bungie got all that money and can't make Halo ODST run in 720p or 1080p. I know a lot of you will say it's all about the gameplay but it's also about graphics too.


For christ sake...

people sometimes have no clue what the hell they are talking about yet post it as if it were a fact.

MGS4 is NATIVE 720p(1280x720) 1024x768...upscaled to 1080p by ps3 or TV

Killzone 2 is 720p(1280x720)...upscaled to 1080p by PS3 or TV

Halo 3 runs native 640p (1138x640)...upscaled by Xbox360 to 1080p.

Please stop posting nonsence people. If you saw a video at 720p and 640p running on the same TV you would not be able to tell them apart. Besides it is all upscaled to 1080p.

May I add that the upscaller in the 360 is much much better than one found in ps3 (since there isnt one in the ps3 and upscalling has to be done with software)

Remember this story anyone - http://kotaku.com/215049/ps3-cant-upscale-a-720p-signal-urgh

Sony have added upscaller support with software since but it still isn't as good as the 360 one.

MGS4 pixels = 786,432

Halo pixels = 728,320

HD spec = 921,600

I had to fix your post, sorry.



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^Thanks Squil

Wow MGS4 is that low? Damn, glad I traded that game... /end sarcasm.



^ Yup. The point is that anyone who is foolish enough to mention MGS4 in a post lambasting Halo 3 ought to get called out for their ignorance. The framerate also dips into the early 20s and averages about 25fps IIRC, I think I got a lot of people angry about that when I posted it.



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disolitude said:
C_Hollomon said:

I always care more about gameplay but all games on the PS3 and 360 should be at 720p or 1080p. It feels good to play KZ2 and MGS4 in 1080p. Not only the graphics good but the gameplay is top notch in both games to me.

To all the Halo fans, I would be mad and disappointed with Bungie. Bungie got all that money and can't make Halo ODST run in 720p or 1080p. I know a lot of you will say it's all about the gameplay but it's also about graphics too.


For christ sake...

people sometimes have no clue what the hell they are talking about yet post it as if it were a fact.

MGS4 is NATIVE 720p(1280x720)...upscaled to 1080p by ps3 or TV

Killzone 2 is 720p(1280x720)...upscaled to 1080p by PS3 or TV

Halo 3 runs native 640p (1138x640)...upscaled by Xbox360 to 1080p.

Please stop posting nonsence people. If you saw a video at 720p and 640p running on the same TV you would not be able to tell them apart. Besides it is all upscaled to 1080p.

May I add that the upscaller in the 360 is much much better than one found in ps3 (since there isnt one in the ps3 and upscalling has to be done with software)

Remember this story anyone - http://kotaku.com/215049/ps3-cant-upscale-a-720p-signal-urgh

Sony have added upscaller support with software since but it still isn't as good as the 360 one.


I knew my post was gonna make some people mad. 

I know the games are upscaled to 1080p.  Halo 3 isn't upscaled to 1080p and I know because I had Halo 3 and I have a HD TV.

I'm going by my post.  This is the nextgen of gaming and games like Halo should be upgraded in graphics and that's the way I feel about it.



@C_Hollomon

You are either lying or don't know how to set xbox to run at 1080p.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1014949/halo-quite-hd

Points of interest -

"The 360 will then either output that or upscale it to 1920x1080 for output on larger displays."


"If you do a comparison shot between the native 1152x640 image and the scaled 1280x720, it’s practically impossible to discern the difference"

Just admit you were wrong and maybe you can save some face...



^ The ignorance comes out, spews full force into the night! Who can stem the tide of darkness?

The young hero quietly wispers that the game even if transmitted at 720P to the television due to having component cables rather than HDMI would be upscaled to 1920/1080 by the TV unless game mode was on or some other do not upscale mode. Therefore! All content played on said TV is most likely upscaled to 1080P whether by the TV itself or by the console.



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Squilliam said:
^ Yup. The point is that anyone who is foolish enough to mention MGS4 in a post lambasting Halo 3 ought to get called out for their ignorance. The framerate also dips into the early 20s and averages about 25fps IIRC, I think I got a lot of people angry about that when I posted it.


Well this is how I see it.  I want a game with great gameplay and awesome breath taking graphics like MGS4.  Halo 3 never done that for me.  I'm not saying Halo gameplay sucks and it have good graphics but the graphics should be better than what it is to me.   



disolitude said:
@C_Hollomon

You are either lying or don't know how to set xbox to run at 1080p.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1014949/halo-quite-hd

Points of interest -

"The 360 will then either output that or upscale it to 1920x1080 for output on larger displays."


"If you do a comparison shot between the native 1152x640 image and the scaled 1280x720, it’s practically impossible to discern the difference"

Just admit you were wrong and maybe you can save some face...


What was I wrong about?

I knew how to set the settings for 1080p on the 360.  Halo 3 didn't show it but some of the other games I had did.