Half Life 2 I'd argue is the best SP FPS going.
It's an oldie but I still think Unreal Tournament had the best MP FPS
Halo CE is very good though, although I thought it played better on PC than Xbox, but then I'm a bit of a PC FPS snob - but at least I admit it openly...
Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...
| Reasonable said: Half Life 2 I'd argue is the best SP FPS going. It's an oldie but I still think Unreal Tournament had the best MP FPS Halo CE is very good though, although I thought it played better on PC than Xbox, but then I'm a bit of a PC FPS snob - but at least I admit it openly... |
This is exactly how I feel as well.
Halo CE is certainly a very good game but I don't count it among the best FPS' ever.
| disolitude said: Im still trying to see how half life 2 is better... Yeah, the set pieces are maybe a tag bit better, but HL2 gunplay is quite lacking even to lesser shooters than halo. Games like FEAR own Half Life 2 enemy AI and gun fights. HL2 does have a great story, music is awesome...weapons are great...but as an FPS I come to the table for the shooting part, and the shooting in Hal Life has always been a little on the safe side. |
Half Life 2 has a very engaging story/setting, great atmosphere, great gameplay, great AI. Halo is a completely different style of FPS than Half Life though. Halo is the epitome of console style shooters (which means more than just dual analogue versus mouse and keyboard) while Half Life is the epitome of PC style shooters. Yes, other games do some things better, such as FEAR having superior AI, but as a complete package Half Life is deservedly, widely considered the best.
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Demotruk said:
Half Life 2 has a very engaging story/setting, great atmosphere, great gameplay, great AI. Halo is a completely different style of FPS than Half Life though. Halo is the epitome of console style shooters (which means more than just dual analogue versus mouse and keyboard) while Half Life is the epitome of PC style shooters. Yes, other games do some things better, such as FEAR having superior AI, but as a complete package Half Life is deservedly, widely considered the best. |
Half-Life 2 great A.I.?
The Combines made me miss the Marines from the original Half-Life.
Halo isn't a just a "console" based shooter, it's a action packed combat shooter that focuses more on a combat than anything else. Halo's combat is far superior than Half-Life 2's or even the first one. Halo even has better A.I.
| Words Of Wisdom said: Neither Golden Eye nor Halo is the best FPS game ever. Both are easily inferior to just about everything on the market today. |
I've never said GoldenEye or Halo Combat Evolved are the best FPS ever, I said Halo CE is ONE of the best FPS ever made.
No, Halo Combat Evolved outdoes most of the current competition because it has more substance than games like Call of Duty 4 and BioShock {Dumb down rehash System Shock 2, but a pretty damn good rehash}, the only FPS in the market that can rival or beat Hal are Crysis and Half-Life 2.
By today's standards its not very good (imo but I played it on PC), It was the first FPS experience for many gamers as well.
For its time it was among the best. There are what? 3-4 other names which are consistantly brought up alongside the name Halo: CE? Doesn't that fit the premise of the thread that its one of but not the best FPS ever?
@Reasonable, be reasonable and read the OP again. 
Tease.
uadfa said:
The Combines made me miss the Marines from the original Half-Life. Halo isn't a just a "console" based shooter, it's a action packed combat shooter that focuses more on a combat than anything else. Halo's combat is far superior than Half-Life 2's or even the first one. Halo even has better A.I. |
Yes, Half Life 2 did have the most sophisticated AI at it's time. Though FEAR came out not that long after and blew it away. Of course, when a game has sophisticated AI the enemies are left to their own accord more often and thus there's more potential for embarassment. Just look at STALKER for proof of the point.
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uadfa said:
No, Halo Combat Evolved outdoes most of the current competition because it has more substance than games like Call of Duty 4 and BioShock {Dumb down rehash System Shock 2, but a pretty damn good rehash}, the only FPS in the market that can rival or beat Hal are Crysis and Half-Life 2. |
I don't believe I was directly addressing you with my post. My mentioning Goldeneye should have been a clear indicator of that.
And no, Halo CE is inferior to its competition and was such from the start compared to PC FPS games of the time. I'm not sure where your "more substance" comes in as many of the weapons weren't that useful, the level design was bland and disappointing, and the story was passable but nothing more.
| leo-j said: By today's standards its not very good (imo but I played it on PC), It was the first FPS experience for many gamers as well. |
Please don't tell me BioShock, Call of Duty 4, Call of Duty World at War, Killzone 2, Resistance series {The original was fantastic] or Left 4 Dead outdo Halo.
The only modern SP FPS that can compare to Halo CE are Half-Life 2, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, F.E.A.R., and probably S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl.
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