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SciFiBoy on 20 July 2009
FootballFan said:
SciFiBoy said:
one thing about it allways puzzeles me, how is it legal to do it to a child? surely, it should be there choice, after they reach the age of concent? (in the uk thats 16)


You could say the exact same thing about religions.

ideally, yes, yes i would, i think things like that are for you to decide for yourself, not your parents, obviously, somethings, your parents should teach you, but when it comes to things like religion, imo, its up to you.



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Graves on 20 July 2009
blazinhead89 said:
tedsteriscool said:
Yes, I've been told it's "cleaner" to be.

Non Circumsized can be just as clean. Just gotta wash it. Only lazy guys aren't as clean.

The great thing is I can be lazy and not worry about my penis smelling like a vagina. Some girls are also creeped out by uncircumcised penises, so its definitely a regional thing.

That Guy on 20 July 2009

nope. I'm still rockin' the turtle neck



MontanaHatchet on 20 July 2009
FootballFan said:
Well its an unnecessary operation, it certainly isnt needed and depending on the age it could cause trauma. If people find out they could treat you differently and if your at a young age when you realise your friends arn't the same it might be a bit upsetting.

Also this

Loss of Sensitivity.
A number of men complain that a loss of sensitivity or dryness of the glans following circumcision has spoiled their sex lives.

It's unnecessary, but so is a baptism for that matter. Circumcision is tied to religion. Besides, it definitely doesn't cause trauma. A lot of circumcisions happen shortly after birth. I don't think anyone knows how a 2 month old baby feels about anything. Other people say that circumcison violates the rights of the child, or that it should be a choice. BS as well. Nobody cares what kids think. They're the property of their parents, and if they want a relatively harmless operation with possible health benefits (and pertaining to their religious beliefs), hell, that's great.

By the way, how is anyone going to find out?

"Well, I caught a look at Johnny's dick the other day, and well...he's circumcised. I really liked the guy, but without that flap of skin, I just don't know anymore. I don't know."

Anywho, I don't know if young kids show each other their dicks these days. Must be a generational thing.

Loss of sensitivity is pretty lame. I'm not having sex with my skin flap, and most of the senses are in the tip. And the men complaining that it hurt their sex lives are probably just awful at sex anyways.



 

 

SciFiBoy on 20 July 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
FootballFan said:
Well its an unnecessary operation, it certainly isnt needed and depending on the age it could cause trauma. If people find out they could treat you differently and if your at a young age when you realise your friends arn't the same it might be a bit upsetting.

Also this

Loss of Sensitivity.
A number of men complain that a loss of sensitivity or dryness of the glans following circumcision has spoiled their sex lives.

It's unnecessary, but so is a baptism for that matter. Circumcision is tied to religion. Besides, it definitely doesn't cause trauma. A lot of circumcisions happen shortly after birth. I don't think anyone knows how a 2 month old baby feels about anything. Other people say that circumcison violates the rights of the child, or that it should be a choice. BS as well. Nobody cares what kids think. They're the property of their parents, and if they want a relatively harmless operation with possible health benefits (and pertaining to their religious beliefs), hell, that's great.

By the way, how is anyone going to find out?

"Well, I caught a look at Johnny's dick the other day, and well...he's circumcised. I really liked the guy, but without that flap of skin, I just don't know anymore. I don't know."

Anywho, I don't know if young kids show each other their dicks these days. Must be a generational thing.

Loss of sensitivity is pretty lame. I'm not having sex with my skin flap, and most of the senses are in the tip. And the men complaining that it hurt their sex lives are probably just awful at sex anyways.

there are some things that children should decide for themselves, they are not the slaves of there parents, once they turn 16, then they can decide what religion they want to join, and decide for themselves if they want to accept the traditions of that faith.



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D_Boy on 20 July 2009

Actually...according to history...guys only got the chop because back then there wasn't flowing water available on a regular basis (no showers)...and keeping underneath clean was very difficult...so they chop shopped that sucker to make it less susceptible to build up. Don't know how it became a Jewish tradition though....



MontanaHatchet on 20 July 2009
SciFiBoy said:
MontanaHatchet said:
FootballFan said:
Well its an unnecessary operation, it certainly isnt needed and depending on the age it could cause trauma. If people find out they could treat you differently and if your at a young age when you realise your friends arn't the same it might be a bit upsetting.

Also this

Loss of Sensitivity.
A number of men complain that a loss of sensitivity or dryness of the glans following circumcision has spoiled their sex lives.

It's unnecessary, but so is a baptism for that matter. Circumcision is tied to religion. Besides, it definitely doesn't cause trauma. A lot of circumcisions happen shortly after birth. I don't think anyone knows how a 2 month old baby feels about anything. Other people say that circumcison violates the rights of the child, or that it should be a choice. BS as well. Nobody cares what kids think. They're the property of their parents, and if they want a relatively harmless operation with possible health benefits (and pertaining to their religious beliefs), hell, that's great.

By the way, how is anyone going to find out?

"Well, I caught a look at Johnny's dick the other day, and well...he's circumcised. I really liked the guy, but without that flap of skin, I just don't know anymore. I don't know."

Anywho, I don't know if young kids show each other their dicks these days. Must be a generational thing.

Loss of sensitivity is pretty lame. I'm not having sex with my skin flap, and most of the senses are in the tip. And the men complaining that it hurt their sex lives are probably just awful at sex anyways.

there are some things that children should decide for themselves, they are not the slaves of there parents, once they turn 16, then they can decide what religion they want to join, and decide for themselves if they want to accept the traditions of that faith.

It's not harmful to the child, and if the parents truly want it, I don't see the problem. Small children are forced to take some very painful vaccinations (via needle). Should these children wait until they're older to decide to get vaccinations against tetanus? A child can choose their religion any time they want. It's not like parents will point a gun at their child and force them to follow a religion (and even if they did, they can't control thought).

Besides, if you're going to get a circumcision, better when you're 2 months old than 16 years or so.



 

 

SciFiBoy on 20 July 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
SciFiBoy said:

there are some things that children should decide for themselves, they are not the slaves of there parents, once they turn 16, then they can decide what religion they want to join, and decide for themselves if they want to accept the traditions of that faith.

It's not harmful to the child, and if the parents truly want it, I don't see the problem. Small children are forced to take some very painful vaccinations (via needle). Should these children wait until they're older to decide to get vaccinations against tetanus? A child can choose their religion any time they want. It's not like parents will point a gun at their child and force them to follow a religion (and even if they did, they can't control thought).

Besides, if you're going to get a circumcision, better when you're 2 months old than 16 years or so.

there is no definetive medical reason for the circumsision though, if theyre were, i wouldnt have any issue with it.

problem is, if you tell a child that god exists and thats a fact, and dont give them any other views, youre essentially forcing them to accept your beliefs, till there older, theyre not gonna know any better, evne then, the dogma may be so ingrained in there mind, that they are no longer open to other views, like homophobia, most homophobes i assume are religious, they were told that as a child that homosexuality is wrong, so when older they persecute them.



Seece on 20 July 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
FootballFan said:
Well its an unnecessary operation, it certainly isnt needed and depending on the age it could cause trauma. If people find out they could treat you differently and if your at a young age when you realise your friends arn't the same it might be a bit upsetting.

Also this

Loss of Sensitivity.
A number of men complain that a loss of sensitivity or dryness of the glans following circumcision has spoiled their sex lives.

It's unnecessary, but so is a baptism for that matter. Circumcision is tied to religion. Besides, it definitely doesn't cause trauma. A lot of circumcisions happen shortly after birth. I don't think anyone knows how a 2 month old baby feels about anything. Other people say that circumcison violates the rights of the child, or that it should be a choice. BS as well. Nobody cares what kids think. They're the property of their parents, and if they want a relatively harmless operation with possible health benefits (and pertaining to their religious beliefs), hell, that's great.

By the way, how is anyone going to find out?

"Well, I caught a look at Johnny's dick the other day, and well...he's circumcised. I really liked the guy, but without that flap of skin, I just don't know anymore. I don't know."

Anywho, I don't know if young kids show each other their dicks these days. Must be a generational thing.

Loss of sensitivity is pretty lame. I'm not having sex with my skin flap, and most of the senses are in the tip. And the men complaining that it hurt their sex lives are probably just awful at sex anyways.

LOL, thanks for cheering me up Montana



 

That Guy on 20 July 2009
SciFiBoy said:
MontanaHatchet said:
SciFiBoy said:

there are some things that children should decide for themselves, they are not the slaves of there parents, once they turn 16, then they can decide what religion they want to join, and decide for themselves if they want to accept the traditions of that faith.

It's not harmful to the child, and if the parents truly want it, I don't see the problem. Small children are forced to take some very painful vaccinations (via needle). Should these children wait until they're older to decide to get vaccinations against tetanus? A child can choose their religion any time they want. It's not like parents will point a gun at their child and force them to follow a religion (and even if they did, they can't control thought).

Besides, if you're going to get a circumcision, better when you're 2 months old than 16 years or so.

there is no definetive medical reason for the circumsision though, if theyre were, i wouldnt have any issue with it.

problem is, if you tell a child that god exists and thats a fact, and dont give them any other views, youre essentially forcing them to accept your beliefs, till there older, theyre not gonna know any better, evne then, the dogma may be so ingrained in there mind, that they are no longer open to other views, like homophobia, most homophobes i assume are religious, they were told that as a child that homosexuality is wrong, so when older they persecute them.

 

Judging by the demographic here at VGC, it seems like most people 16+ have already made up their minds about religion and etc. on their own anyways.  And you guys all seem pretty open minded to me. I don't really see it being that big of a problem.