Smashed said: I'm still getting this game, but it's going to be hack and slash. Eww... MGS is about sneaking and stealth kills, not hack and slash Why Raiden? out of all the characters.

The last thing I want to do is insert myself into this argument, but I distincly remember Kojima saying that this would be a stealth game, just different from the rest of the series. (I even made a topic about it a few months ago)

It may have hack n' slash gameplay segments, but it's still going to be a stealth game in some form.

I would like to start of by thanking all of you for sharing your thoughts with me.

I always read every reply and i also reply to some, I saw some good points and bad points being raised and i just had to make a new thread based on all of the comments i read.  First of all the subject was Metal gear solid rising (could) sell 10m.  For those who said that the main character in MGSR raiden will dissapoint the metal gear fans because they like snake more,  Let me remind you that the best selling MGS game to date is MGS2 with 7m and guess whose the main character in that game? Its raiden.

Yes, but MGS2 was a proper stealth game, like the original Metal Gear Solid, and it was also the first MGS on the console (first games on each console tend to sell the best, with the exception of games with casual appeal like CoD, GTA and Halo.

When this game releases in (my guess) 2010 it will release simuntaneously for 2 very successful consoles a first for a MGS game.

The PS2 was more successful than both put together, but fair enough.

By 3rd or 4th quarter 2010 the 360 will reach around 50m user base and the ps3 will reach around 40m especially with a price cut and slim ps3 both coming this year and a huge amount of exclusives like gt5 and god of war 3.

You can't know that. And if it's before the holiday season, 360 will be around 43 million, and PS3 around 36 million.

Thats a combined user base of 90MILLION so when MGSR releases simuntaneously for both in 2010 it will have huge sales, MGS4 sold 1.3m on day one and thats just with 15m user base on one console.

Closer to 80 million, really, and userbase has very little to do with anything- look at Gears of War's sales on 6 million consoles, or GT3's sales on 10 million. Despite launching on a larger userbase, GT4 sold less than GT3.

Here is my first day sales predictions for both consoles the ps3 2.5m 360 2m = 4.5m its possible with a 90m user base.

Not at all. How could the PS3 version sell 2.5 million first day? Do you realise that is higher than MGS4? You really expect this Metal Gaiden game to sell more than a full fledged MGS, the final chapter in Solid Snake's story, which also happened to be an incredible game? That opening for the 360 is even more improbable. 2 million is almost up at Gears of War 2's opening week- the sequel to one of the best games on the console, which had crossed 5 million units sold with ease, and WAS actually on the console. With Microsoft advertising.

A spin off MGS game is just what MGS fans are looking for right now especially since raiden is a bad ass ninja hes come along way from mgs2

Not at all. Ask any MGS fan whether they'd rather have a stealth game or a hack and slash starring Raiden.

thats for sure and casual gamers will like to try out a cool ninja game done right for once.

Perhaps they will. But hack and slash isn't exactly the most popular genre this gen. And this is no God of War III.

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