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RolStoppable, yeah I guess I was observing about the market I am most familiar with. I agree with most everything you are saying though.

And I've never really cared what was considered cool. Most of my console purchases went against what was cool at the time. Not purposefully but just based on what I wanted at the time. Saturn over Playstation, and so forth. When I bought the original X-box it was simply because I wanted to play Elder Scrolls: Morrowind and my PC wouldn't run it. But overall there is no denying this sort of advertising "cool" factor does seem to play a big part in a consoles acceptance.

sguy78, I definitely see what you are saying. I would assume Transformers has done a great deal to sell the new Camero to people.



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i got 3 words

money halo live



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I dont understand? Were is this proof that microsoft has payed developers for games? Or that they money hatted? Or that they paid people to get on forums during the ps3 launch and start destroying its reputation? Or that they had XBOX 360 chairs and said to save up for the 360 and not get a psp on the day the PSP launched in europe?

There is no proof of any of that..(do not google or you will find proof)



 

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Well Leo J Sony moneyhatted R* Last gen with the GTA Games,but thats why PS was winning huh. So is Money Hatting a bad thing or no? Cause if it is Sony is at fault as well,Hell even this gen they are at fault.



Were is the proof that sony money hatted? Huh? Huh? HHUUUUUHHH?



 

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Xbox 360 was able to play on Sony's Huge mistakes this generation ,it also has great line up of games and the price.

SEGA did not had the resources that MS had, MS lost bilions on the Xbox and lost a lot on RROD but they were able to allocate a lot of money on promoting their product.



Why would they (R*) Want to keep GTA exclusive on PS2? When clearly the more powerful and better graphics system is waiting? Oh thats cuz Sony paid them to...Same with Agent.

 

http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/05/30/kaz-hirai-sony-can-re-evaluate-paying-for-ps3-exclusives/                                                                           

 

Now to quote it.."A long time ago, Jack Tretton mentioned that Sony will not pay for PS3 exclusivity in this generation of games" Which means Sony did indeed pay R* and other game companys.

 

Even one from VG chartz

 

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=65741                                                                                                                                                                    

Another  http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/21/sony-pub-fund-paying-off-for-psn-exclusive-devs/

 

 



Wow you found the proof that I never expected you to find, I am impressed.

Not only that but you posted a link saying that Sony would pay the entire development cycle of a game if its on PSN only.



 

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lol,I am impressed as well,when i come with facts it usually backfires,or they make up some lame excuse.



JPL78 said:

This is posted on the Xbox board so that hopefully it won't be seen as flaming any fan of the PS3 fans.  Of course with the way this site works its impossble not to anger such fans, so I am sorry.

 

I really got to thinking, all you hear sometimes is 360 had a year head start, 360 had a year head start, 360 had a year head start.

Know what else had a year head start over its competition?  The Dreamcast.

We see how that worked out.

 

Sorry if that was a stupid reason to create a post.  I'm just tired of hearing that the only reason the 360 is successful is because it beat the PS3 to the market.  And despite similar P.R. tactics used by Sony against the Dreamcast "Our system is much more powerfull, so its worth the wait" The 360 still managed a pretty decisive lead at this point in the game.

So the question would be, what made the difference between the Dreamcast and the Xbox 360?  Why did one die horribly despite its large amounts of fanboy love and why did the other system find very good success?

Well there are many differences.One is sega always had internal conflict with all three of their branches(us pulls one way,jp pulls another and europe does their own thing) and that would explain alot of the money loss if you ask me.Two they were basicly fighting a one man war,making most of their games,with only a few of the top developers actually making games that had a decent budget.(like capcom,snk, and so on)Three in their gaming line up were alot of ps1 ports making the dreamcast look quite bad.

Even with limited amount of money sega would cook up arcade boards like every year.(hikaru and expensive custom arcade board,naomi 2 basicly a dreamcast times 2,pretty much on the lvl or a little higher of the ps2 polygon pushing wise)Also bad decisions like lets 70 million dollar series like Shenmue.(I think there was an article stating that they had to sell shemue 2 twice per console holder to break even)All and all I think the main difference is funds.The dreamcast could have continued if they had as much money as Microsoft.

Lets not forget how sony lied that the ps2 was basicly a cg machine(75 million triangles anyone?)Basicly was hype.I dont think they money hatted as much as ppl think,I just think the install might have been pretty high even when the gamecube and xbox came,so it made sense to make games ps2 exclusive.



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