where are those facepalm pics when you need them. seriously. Conduit have zero to none advertisment campaign compared even to game like Haze that have advertisment budget bigger than whole Conduit development budget. not to mention that all those games were released on shooterstation and shooterbox - whatever you will release on ps360 if it's a shooter it's a given that it will sell crapload of copies. plus then there's review issue where many reviewers simply bashed the game for being on the nintendo platform.
the fact that you forgot bout the legs of wii/ds games is not even funny. here's a question which game will bring profit: Killzone 2, Haze or The Conduit? Haze flopped, Killzone 2 have long way before it will break even.
I agree the Conduit did bomb but your reasons why are all wrong.
First off, since this is the Wii, we should be be comparing The Conduits sales to the best selling game (not bundled with a console) of all time!
The Conduit ( first week 94,469, second week 61,947, approximately 160 K for the first 2 weeks total)
Wii Play (for US only to be fair... first week 180,390, second week 122,890, approximately 300 k for the first 2 weeks total, 23.7 mil ltd)
How can you argue with that? The Conduit is OBVIOUSLY a huge bomb. I mean it only got a little more than half of Wii Play's sales for the first two weeks! That is just disgraceful! I know, I know you will say that Wii Play sold because it came with a Wii Remote but any true gamer knows quality when they see it, and Wii Play is top tier.
So how could HVS have performed better you ask? Well I will tell you!
Lucy Lawless (Xena) should have been Prometheus' (Kevin Sorbo) part. MUCH more hardcore if you ask me.
Also, why go with some actor from third-rate imitation Star Trek shows to play the part of Agent Ford, when a little show called Boston Legal was canceled? Thats right! Agent Ford should have been played by Captain James Tiberius Kirk himself, William Shatner! Oh and they should have used his rendition of "Common People" in the soundtrack...
I think that Rick Neilson was just too high profile of an entertainer to have associated with the likes of The Conduit. His involvement completely overshadowed it to the point that people only knew Rick Nielson was working on a game but they couldn't remember which one because they were so star-struck. Honestly, if a famous musician had to be involved with The Conduit, it would have been much better if HVS had gotten someone a bit less famous, like Glen Danzig. Imagine how great running and gunning would be set to various remixes of "Mother".
Finally, if you already have Captain Kirk as a voice actor for your game and you are looking for someone to play a bald man why not go for the royal flush and get Captain Piccard (Patrick Stewert) for Mr. Adams as well?
So you see, The Conduit did indeed bomb but if The Conduit 2 (if there is one) institutes the changes I have listed. I have no doubt it will HUGE!
(Oh, and I agree on the Chain-Saw. It worked for Scarface, Mad World, and Army of Darkness, so why not The Conduit?)
I agree with Wii Play being top tier. Tanks or laser hockey on their own are better than some $50 games.
Lucy Lawless in Kevin Sorbo's part might have helped. I didn't think of that. You have to admit that my choice of Marc Singer is pretty good though. WHo needs the ASE when you have Sharak?
Shatner would have wanted a dollar for every word that he spoke and that would have probably put High Voltage into bankruptcy.
Glen Danzig? I dunno. He's a known Satanist and I don't know if Nintendo would allow anything with him in it be allowed to be sold on their console. Then again, they did allow Splinter Cell: Double Agent to be released on the Wii and that's pretty tasteless there.
Piccard as well? Once again. This would have cost High Voltage way too much money. It would have been like the time that the 20th Century Fox Movie Studio almost closed because of the costs of Cleopatra.
Maybe you should start writing threads like this.
Chainsaws make everything better. If it weren't for chainsaws, Madworld would have only sold 37 copies.
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"There are like ten games a year that sell over a million units." High Voltage CEO - Eric Nofsinger
@ Stefan What does Sega know? They allowed HVS to continue on with their ridiculous plan of hiring Kevin Sorbo and Rick Neilson for this game when we have clearly indicated that there were MUCH stronger alternatives.
Seriously, I doubt this game will sell even half as much as Wii Play at this rate since it doesn't look like it will have legs. Ask lol, in the other thread he said that it won't sell in the holidays since HVS didn't wait until Oct or Nov to release it. There is NO DOUBT, The Conduit bombed!
I agree the Conduit did bomb but your reasons why are all wrong.
First off, since this is the Wii, we should be be comparing The Conduits sales to the best selling game (not bundled with a console) of all time!
The Conduit ( first week 94,469, second week 61,947, approximately 160 K for the first 2 weeks total)
Wii Play (for US only to be fair... first week 180,390, second week 122,890, approximately 300 k for the first 2 weeks total, 23.7 mil ltd)
How can you argue with that? The Conduit is OBVIOUSLY a huge bomb. I mean it only got a little more than half of Wii Play's sales for the first two weeks! That is just disgraceful! I know, I know you will say that Wii Play sold because it came with a Wii Remote but any true gamer knows quality when they see it, and Wii Play is top tier.
So how could HVS have performed better you ask? Well I will tell you!
Lucy Lawless (Xena) should have been Prometheus' (Kevin Sorbo) part. MUCH more hardcore if you ask me.
Also, why go with some actor from third-rate imitation Star Trek shows to play the part of Agent Ford, when a little show called Boston Legal was canceled? Thats right! Agent Ford should have been played by Captain James Tiberius Kirk himself, William Shatner! Oh and they should have used his rendition of "Common People" in the soundtrack...
I think that Rick Neilson was just too high profile of an entertainer to have associated with the likes of The Conduit. His involvement completely overshadowed it to the point that people only knew Rick Nielson was working on a game but they couldn't remember which one because they were so star-struck. Honestly, if a famous musician had to be involved with The Conduit, it would have been much better if HVS had gotten someone a bit less famous, like Glen Danzig. Imagine how great running and gunning would be set to various remixes of "Mother".
Finally, if you already have Captain Kirk as a voice actor for your game and you are looking for someone to play a bald man why not go for the royal flush and get Captain Piccard (Patrick Stewert) for Mr. Adams as well?
So you see, The Conduit did indeed bomb but if The Conduit 2 (if there is one) institutes the changes I have listed. I have no doubt it will HUGE!
(Oh, and I agree on the Chain-Saw. It worked for Scarface, Mad World, and Army of Darkness, so why not The Conduit?)
I agree with Wii Play being top tier. Tanks or laser hockey on their own are better than some $50 games.
Lucy Lawless in Kevin Sorbo's part might have helped. I didn't think of that. You have to admit that my choice of Marc Singer is pretty good though. WHo needs the ASE when you have Sharak?
Shatner would have wanted a dollar for every word that he spoke and that would have probably put High Voltage into bankruptcy.
Glen Danzig? I dunno. He's a known Satanist and I don't know if Nintendo would allow anything with him in it be allowed to be sold on their console. Then again, they did allow Splinter Cell: Double Agent to be released on the Wii and that's pretty tasteless there.
Piccard as well? Once again. This would have cost High Voltage way too much money. It would have been like the time that the 20th Century Fox Movie Studio almost closed because of the costs of Cleopatra.
Maybe you should start writing threads like this.
Chainsaws make everything better. If it weren't for chainsaws, Madworld would have only sold 37 copies.
Marc Singer was a good idea but still can you imagine how awesome it would have been hearing Xena's "lalalala" battle cry every time you pull out the ASE?
You might be right about Nintendo not allowing Glen Danzig, but then again, how could Nintendo tarnish their family friendly image any more than by releasing Wii Music uncut? That game probably has been responsible for far more Wii Remotes smashing TVs, cursing, and black eyes than any game in history. I will concede though that if Danzig were too contriversial David Hasselhoff would have been an excellent choice for the soundtrack. "Get in My Car" would have made the game.
I think you are wrong about Shatner and Patrick Stewart though. Its pretty obvious that with their inclusion The Conduit would sell at least as much as Wii Play, thus justifying their salaries.
PATRIOT7ME said: conduit didn't bomb stop being a hater
It was outsold this week by Mario Kart Wii and that game's over a year old.
Add that to my list of reasons why the Conduit bombed.
Does that mean it is dead meat. No? Quit being a hater. Mario Kart has strong legs and is much more well known than the Conduit. It didn't bomb. Do me a favor and wait and see how well it sales later. Also quit comparing the conduit with big FPS games that are much more well known than the conduit
Strong legs? Mario Kart's outselling the Conduit and it's been out for a year. How can a game that's being outsold by a game that's been out for over a year possibly be considered a hit? Why shouldn't I compare the Conduit with other shooters? What should I compare it to? RPG's? Point and click adventures? Sports franchises? What should I compare it to?
Hello? Its the Wii! The only thing any game should be compared to on the Wii are mini-game collections!
You might be on to something and the Conduit might not be that much of a bomb.
I looked up the sales of all three Rayman Raving Rabbids games and Mario Party 8 and compared them.
These are the totals for the Conduit and the three RRR games for their first two weeks;
The Conduit 160K
Rayman Raving Rabbids 102 K
Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 151 K
Rayman Raving Rabbid TV Party 179 K
Mario Party 8 948 K
So the Conduit is performing better than the fairly sucessful Rabbid franchise did in it's first two outings. This bodes well for the Conduit and the possibility for some sequels. Mario Party 8, on the other hand, is an unstoppable beast.
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why dont you compare it to some Wii FPS games and see where it will land. Like CODWaW and Red Steel. Both of those games sold well over a million, and if The Conduit sells a million I think HVS and Sega will be pleased.
End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)
Wii- 72 million 3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases
360- 37 million Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak
PS3- 29 million Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut
Then again, they did allow Splinter Cell: Double Agent to be released on the Wii and that's pretty tasteless there.
